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Does My system can hold Gigabyte GTX760 ?


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#1 Bar20

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 12:23 PM

Hello,

I'm thinking about upgrading my Display card, now i have ati 5770(GV-R577UD-1GD),very nice card i must say

I had several cards in mind but one really stood up for me:
Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX760 OC 2GB GDDR5, in my country it cost about 419$

I don't know if this is the best choice for my system to run at best settings so I'm consulting here (:

This are my specs:

Processor i920 2.66GHz 8MB CORE I7 1366 QUAD 920

GPU:
ATI REDEON 5770 1G-5 GIGABYTE
GV-R577UD-1GD

Mother board-GIGABYTE
GAX58AUD3R

Power supply-
12CM FAN A.PFC WIN+600 600W HEC

Box-
VK90001N2Z ELEMENT T THEMAK TAKE

SCREEN:
bx2440 pivot LCD LED MEGA DCR 24 SAMSUNG

RAM-
8GB ram

WIN 7 64BIT

My system is a bit more then 3 years old...upgraded nothing but memory as of yet

 Never did OC to the cpu nor to the GPU

 

 



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 07:20 AM

looks like that 760 is going to need a pci 3.0 interface from your motherboard and a 6-pin connector off of your power supply which your 5770 is already putting to good use. your 5770 is using a pci 2.0 currently. Your motherboard won't have a problem with your new 760, and definitely your processor would be in a clean state with the 760 or any other GPU you install.  I would Vote YES go for the 760 2gb gddr5 upgrade!!

 

            I think with your current hardware configuration, you can get whatever you want and it will be compatible. What games are you enjoying that require such a magnum GPU on a 24" monitor?  Some games are differently compatible with certain GPUs. The benchmarks are kept up to date mostly.

 

 Be sure to do a clean uninstall of your 5770 drivers beforehand.


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 12:36 PM

looks like that 760 is going to need a pci 3.0 interface from your motherboard and a 6-pin connector off of your power supply which your 5770 is already putting to good use. your 5770 is using a pci 2.0 currently. Your motherboard won't have a problem with your new 760, and definitely your processor would be in a clean state with the 760 or any other GPU you install.  I would Vote YES go for the 760 2gb gddr5 upgrade!!

 

            I think with your current hardware configuration, you can get whatever you want and it will be compatible. What games are you enjoying that require such a magnum GPU on a 24" monitor?  Some games are differently compatible with certain GPUs. The benchmarks are kept up to date mostly.

 

 Be sure to do a clean uninstall of your 5770 drivers beforehand.

 

 

 

 

All the "big" games that will come this year like AC4 BF4 WATCH DOGS... does the pci 2.0 is going to be an issue?

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by Bar20, 15 August 2013 - 12:37 PM.


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 03:12 PM

that game runs slightly better with a 7970 or a 770 or perhaps the 680 even. No , the pci 3.0 is provided for in your MoBo.  I would check to be certain though. Your 5770 is using a pci 2.0. It looks like that game runs with the Physx (nvidia) better than the Directx (amd). But wait, theres more. If you can wait a few months, the 8000 series is going to be coming out, which should drive the nvidia prices down more.  But as it is right now, you are spot on with your 760 aspirations, best bang for the buck. The 2gb gddr5 and the current price structure is what tips the 760 over the top  of the cliff for an acrobatic landing right into your GAX58AUD3R pci 3.0

 

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:56 PM

wait,    backup...hold on...I looked up your Motherboard again..I found something that needs further investigation..I will paste

 

Expansion Slots PCI Express 2.0 x16 2 x PCI Express x16 slots, running at x16 (PCIEX16_1/PCIEX16_2) (Note 1)
2 x PCI Express x16 slot, running at x8 (PCIEX8_1/PCIEX8_2) (Note 2)

(Note 1) For optimum performance, if only one PCI Express graphics card is to be installed, be sure to install it in the PCIEX16_1 slot; if you are installing two PCI Express graphics cards, it is recommended that you install them in the PCIEX16_1 and PCIEX16_2 slots.

(Note 2) The PCIEX8_1 and PCIEX8_2 slots share bandwidth with the PCIEX16_1 and PCIEX16_2 slots espectively. When PCIEX8_1 is populated with an expansion card, the PCIEX16_1 slot will operate at up to x8 mode; when PCIEX8_2 is populated with an expansion card, the PC IEX16_2 slot will operate at up to x8

mode.

 

 my mistake, i was scanning the mobo specs and just saw "3.0" and AS5umed, it is the USB 3.0 that mobo is sporting, not the PCI 3.0

 

 

  That may be a bottleneck, that motherboard isn't sporting the pci 3.0,  it won't be able to get your full 760 potential, it very well may still function, but your PCI bus will bottleneck. i will investigate further...


Edited by synergy513, 15 August 2013 - 05:18 PM.

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 05:50 PM

ok, i looked it up, and it turns out that you will only suffer  5% performance loss using a 3.0 bus card in a 2.0 mobo slot.. You still get my vote for the 760 upgrade. great price/peformance ratio for the time being. 


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 06:02 PM

I don't believe that most GPU's need the speed of a PCI-E X16 3.0, a 2.0 slot should be more than sufficient.  That is, unless you are using one of the cards that has multiple GPU's on one PCB, like the 7990 or using SLI or Crossfire with high-end cards.  PCI Express is backwards compatible with other PCI-E versions that came before it, so a 3.0 capable card will work in a 2.0 or 1.0 slot.  The differences between 2.0 and 3.0 do start to show as more and more graphics cards are added, but the difference can be small.  Here's an interesting article about 2.0 and 3.0.

 

PhysX enabled games do have other software for non-Nvidia cards and, frankly, not considering an AMD card just to get PhysX is a bit shortsighted.  Most games don't see much difference with PhysX enabled or not.  That said, a GTX 760 is faster than a non-boosted Radeon 7950, with a boosted version being equal.


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Posted 15 August 2013 - 06:39 PM

The Cavalry has arrived !

 

          Yes,. that is the deduction.... for the price/performance ratio, the 760 is shining bright as the obvious choice. other gpus may perform better, but considering the cost escalation, the curve starts leveling out..  one thing i was curious about, if the MoBo is packing DDR3 and the GPU is GDDR5, is there any compatibility concerns on a 64 bit OS? I guess i could look it up, but wanted to see the experts judgement.


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Posted 16 August 2013 - 12:47 AM

DDR3 and GDDR5 are both different type of memory, there really should be no compatbility issues with 64bit OS.

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Posted 16 August 2013 - 04:44 AM

So i guess i will  wait for the AMD announce that will hopefully effect on the 760 price...or maybe they will bring something better in a simillar price range...but when will that be ?

 



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Posted 16 August 2013 - 06:40 AM

in the next few months, it is a big anticipation, i can't remember if it is going to be the 8000 series or if it is going to jump straight into the 9000 generation. either way, it should be a complete AMD launch by christmas shopping season. Let us all just hope that the offering is going to fulfill the hype.


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Posted 16 August 2013 - 07:46 AM

The memory on a dedicated graphics card and the system RAM are seperate.  The 64-bit OS would only affect the system RAM, though you do need 64-bit compatible drivers to use any graphics card if you use a 64-bit OS.  If the GPU is integrated with the motherboard or CPU, it will use the slower system memory if it doesn't have its own dedicated chips installed on the motherboard.  If the GPU is integrated, it simply takes a portion of RAM, leaving the rest for Windows to use as normal.

 

As for which GPU to get, if you can wait until the next AMD Radeon's are out, those should put downward pressure on prices or you may be able to get a better card for the same price.


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Posted 16 August 2013 - 07:50 AM

The memory on a dedicated graphics card and the system RAM are seperate.  The 64-bit OS would only affect the system RAM, though you do need 64-bit compatible drivers to use any graphics card if you use a 64-bit OS.  If the GPU is integrated with the motherboard or CPU, it will use the slower system memory if it doesn't have its own dedicated chips installed on the motherboard.  If the GPU is integrated, it simply takes a portion of RAM, leaving the rest for Windows to use as normal.

 

As for which GPU to get, if you can wait until the next AMD Radeon's are out, those should put downward pressure on prices or you may be able to get a better card for the same price.

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