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Need help getting a proper day-night surveillance setup


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#1 cygx

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 01:33 AM

Here's the size of it: I have two cameras set up in my window for the purpose of catching vandals, people getting drunk and leaving their bottles everywhere outside my walkway, kids throwing rocks at my door, peeking in my window, and people otherwise generally being a nuisance.
 
One is a Logitech C920 webcam, and the other is an EasyN FS-613A-M136 IP cam.
 
I originally bought the EasyN camera because it seemed like a cheap, viable solution at the time...especially seeing that it had night vision. However the stupid thing's been giving me nothing but trouble. For one (and this was due to my own ignorance and lack of fact checking I'll admit), its night vision is useless to me because I have it behind glass and all it records at night is a massive bright ring reflection of itself unless I put tape over the LED lights and have it angled in a way that ends up not suiting my purposes for it anyway. 
 
That's not the worst part, though. Whether or not the camera actually gets detected after I boot my computer up has been a roll of the dice since I got it. I constantly have to unplug the camera and plug it back in just to get it to work, and even that's not a sure thing. Lately I've just given up if the camera doesn't get picked up on my network on startup. I only got it working tonight by sheer luck, I was watching a movie and I got an IP address conflict popup, so I figured I'd check and see if it picked up...and it did. Who knows how. I went into the camera's Search IP Address software and changed its IP to 192.168.2.7 instead of its default 192.168.2.2. Hopefully that'll solve the conflict problem and let it get picked up on the network without fail. Time will tell.
 
A few months after frustration with that camera, I decided to give it another go and shelled out more cash  on a webcam of higher quality for the same purpose. I went the webcam route to bypass any issues like the network fiasco I experienced with my first one. Fantastic camera. Problem is... no night vision. I did find a tutorial for modding it by getting in there and breaking the IR filter but I'm having good luck with this thing so far and I don't want to turn it into a $90 paperweight.
 
Basically, I'm looking for a way to get video recording of outside my apartment, at night as well as during the day, from behind my window or a screen, at a quality good enough to at least distinguish faces. Is there any possible way I can achieve this with what I currently have? If I really do need to, I'll shell out yet some more cash for the proper camera and/or equipment, but I'd rather it be under the $100 range.
 
Suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated.
 
Update 8/14: Rebooted my machine this morning and what do you know, the EasyN camera is once again not being picked up. Turned it off and back on, unplugged the ethernet and plugged it back in, still nothing. I'm seriously thinking it's a problem with the IP address. Anyone have any tips on how I would go about fixing this?

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 01:55 AM

My understanding is that the type of night vision such camera tend to use just does not work when "looking through" glass.  So, if you want the night vision to work, you will likely need an actual external camera of some sort.  Or you will need external lights that a good enough that a non-night vision camera will work fine through the glass.



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Posted 14 August 2013 - 08:51 AM

After dealing with this for awhile:

 

Don't mix and match cams.  Especially wireless network cameras.  Foscam is the best of the cheapies IMHO.

 

Nightvision through glass ain't happening with the inbuilt IR leds.  What you can do is make separate IR illuminators.  LED Christmas lights, swap in/solder some IR LEDs on there, bingo prewired IR strip.  You can wire some IR LEDs together and tape them against the inside the glass (black tape on the back of them) and see if you get enough light through to get a picture.


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 12:42 PM

Basically, I'm looking for a way to get video recording of outside my apartment, at night as well as during the day, from behind my window or a screen, at a quality good enough to at least distinguish faces.


I am not sure how well "night modes" on cameras will do with faces. To test that, use your existing camera aimed into your apartment with the lights turned off and see how well it records your face.

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 03:48 PM

After dealing with this for awhile:

 

Don't mix and match cams.  Especially wireless network cameras.  Foscam is the best of the cheapies IMHO.

 

Nightvision through glass ain't happening with the inbuilt IR leds.  What you can do is make separate IR illuminators.  LED Christmas lights, swap in/solder some IR LEDs on there, bingo prewired IR strip.  You can wire some IR LEDs together and tape them against the inside the glass (black tape on the back of them) and see if you get enough light through to get a picture.

 

The christmas lights... that's the kind of tip I was looking for. Sounds like an interesting and cheap MacGyvering. I'll really have to try that out...might work perfectly with my webcam.






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