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#1 BlackSpyder

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 12:10 PM

Instead of being asked or forced to comply with US government requests to monitor Edward Snowden's email addresses, Lavabit and SilentCircle have decided to take the unusual step of shutting down their operations instead. Ladar Levison, the owner of Lavabit, posted a message on the company web site that states that instead of providing access to the US government he has chosen to shut down his company in order to not "become complicit in crimes against the American people"

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http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/08/13/Visit-from-Feds-Has-Two-Email-Providers-Closing-Shop

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Posted 13 August 2013 - 12:42 PM

Hi Bleepin Big Rig aka BlackSyder! 

 

I saw your thread, and I wanted you to know I started one on the same topic in Speak Easy here

 

Would love if you could plz visit and post and add to the discussion regarding Silent Circle including your good link from here.  I was waiting for someone else to add on Silent Circle :)

 

very interested to know hope you will come there and post too

 

thank you ~stolen



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Posted 13 August 2013 - 08:05 PM

Its good to know that their are some people with staunch principles out there. I think the principle was set when China demanded that Yahoo reveal the records of their customers and they did but Google took a stand and refused to do that then shut down its operations in China and moved them to Hongkong, Resulting in a share price dive for Yahoo and a boom for Google.I know that's something I wont forget in a hurry.



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Posted 13 August 2013 - 08:21 PM

More information regarding why from the CEO of Silent Circle here: http://www.zdnet.com/the-truth-about-why-silent-circle-silenced-their-secure-email-service-7000019300/

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Posted 18 August 2013 - 03:59 PM

I am pleased that there are some who standy by  their values and who will take what some may consider drastic action to sustain and honour their moral compass...



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:46 PM

Add another victim to the list:

The award-winning legal analysis site Groklaw is shutting because its founder says that "there is no way" to continue to run it without using secure email - and that the threat of NSA spying means that could be compromised.


More and quote from: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/20/groklaw-shuts-nsa-surveillance

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 03:49 PM

there was another one recently posted in the news, but for the life of me I cannot find the website again. This business owner had received many requests from the the government for information about his users, however he skirted them by stating accurately that he did not collect it.  There was no name requirement for use of the free system, just a username and password. After being brought to court again he shut down his servers, stating (by memory so I am paraphrasing) "although I cannot talk about what was discussed, I am shutting down [name of company] to prevent us from being required to collect information that violates the privacy rights of the american people, I cannot believe that our government has these laws in private, and not told to the people."  Multiple times during that interview he stated that he was not allowed to talk about "it" whenever any of the government requirements were broached.

 

We stopped being a free country a long time ago, but the internet has made that more apparent to all citizens than ever before.


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Posted 23 August 2013 - 05:37 PM

I believe you're referring to Silent Circle. Which I mentioned in post #4. More here regarding Silent Circle:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/09/another-e-mail-service-shuts-down-over-government-spying-concerns/

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 05:39 PM

That doesnt sound right, but I am not arguing because it very well might be. I could swear I read it on popsci.com, or foxnews.com


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Posted 23 August 2013 - 05:52 PM

Not disagreeing with you as I'd like to know if the list is growing. But I did a site search on both sites you mentioned. The only services, email or otherwise, that have shut due to the governments activities, that I was able to find, are the three already mentioned thus far. Those are LavaBit, Silent Circle and Groklaw.

If anyone finds more choosing to close please share with us so we can monitor the situation.

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