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#1 Loki Grim

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 03:14 AM

 

CISN 130 3.00 units

NETWORK TECHNICAL SUPPORT

This course provides students with the knowledge and skills necessary

to install, configure, customize, and troubleshoot Microsoft Windows

NT in a single-domain Microsoft Windows NT-based network. In

addition, students learn how to integrate Windows NT and Novell

NetWare networks.

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Right now I'm at a point where I'm extremely divided between going into the heath field or IT, so this semester I'm taking one required course in human health and want to take another in computers. This is pretty much the only class my college has to offer that is not keyboarding or requires me to buy Windows 8 and another program required for that class. I asked about this class on another site because I didn't see this form until tonight, the answer that I got back was pretty much this class is to difficult unless I was absolutely sure I wanted to work in IT... Do that seem to be correct? I don't know what a Microsoft Windows NT-based network is, when I try to look it up some sites say it's referring to all the Windows OS and other sites say it was pretty much an alternative to Windows 2000 for business owners. Any input on what you think this class would be like would be appreciated, because I'm pretty confused as to what it exactly is lol.


Edited by Elise, 17 July 2013 - 05:03 AM.
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 05:05 AM

I can speculate a lot on the title, but as it is very broad, that would make little sense. By far the best way to go in my opinion is to contact the institution that offers this course and ask for more information (or for example recommended reading) there.

If you're looking for online sources try to find Microsoft articles first, as they likely will have good know-how on the subject.

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 05:17 AM

I can speculate a lot on the title, but as it is very broad, that would make little sense. By far the best way to go in my opinion is to contact the institution that offers this course and ask for more information (or for example recommended reading) there.

If you're looking for online sources try to find Microsoft articles first, as they likely will have good know-how on the subject.

 

I tried to get more information on this class from the college, no luck.. The semester starts around the end of next month, I can't contact a college councilor, find out what book I need, or even get into contact with the person(s) who know anything about this class until the end of this month from what I was told at the main office over there.  From what I've came up with from search results about the class is that yes it seems to be extremely broad lol. Are there any specific Microsoft articles you would recommend, or even a cheep eBook? What branch of IT would this class even prepare someone for, software issues with Windows?



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 05:39 AM

Read This Page for more Information
Computer Information Systems - Networks
CISN 130
Network Technical Support
3 units; 3 hours lecture, 1 hour lab
This course provides students with the knowledge and skills necessary to install, configure, customize, and troubleshoot Microsoft Windows NT, 2000, and XP in a single-domain network. In addition, students learn how to integrate Windows networks with other platforms such as Novell NetWare and UNIX networks.
Recommended Preparation: CISN 110 or equivalent

Computer Information Systems - Networks
CISN 110
Networking Fundamentals
3 units; 3 hours lecture, 1 hour lab
This course provides a comprehensive overview of the fundamental concepts of computer networking. It is designed to make the student aware of the various elements, protocols and software within the networking environment.
Recommended Preparation: COMS 110 or equivalent.

A PDF on this page SP 11 Weekend.indd - Napa Valley College

May be more information for you ........ Lesson 1 - How to use GOOGLE  :whistle:  - :busy:



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Posted 17 July 2013 - 05:55 AM

Loki Grim - good morning. Just wanted to add my impression regarding your OP.

 

I'm currently studying to get my A+ certification from CompTia. In addition to self-study, I've been cherry picking classes at my local community college that have been helping me with some of the basics and, of course, also posting a lot of questions here at Bleeping.

 

This semester I've been taking their ITN 102 class, which is a very basic entry-level class to get students introduced to the basics of Networking and it's been a chore for me. I love it and I'm learning a lot but if you're just getting started, I suspect this class would only frustrate and confuse you.

 

 

The other question that begs to be asked here is this - when you say you're "thinking about going into IT", what does that mean?

 

Are you thinking about being a Level 2 Help Desk Support technician?

 

Are you considering Networking and becoming a Server technician?

 

Are you going into Programming, Gaming, HTML?

 

Are you going to become a Security specialist? Forensic specialist?

 

Those are the big choices, although there are more of course.

 

If you don't know what some of those are, I would suggest taking noknojon's suggest and start Googling.

 

 

If you don't know where you want to be when you start something...you might end up somewhere else.

 

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 06:30 AM

May be more information for you ........ Lesson 1 - How to use GOOGLE  :whistle:  - :busy:

 

I could be reading what you posted incorrectly, I have delayed sleep phase syndrome have been up for around thirty hours lol. But it seem like your posting a part of the catalog that took place back in spring 2011? The semester that I'm going to start in a month is Fall 2013, the classes in your post are no available at the moment. I put the link below, your going to see CISA 130 computer literacy and probably point to that one but I've taken it all ready and got an A out of it. There is also CISA 110 INTRODUCTION TO MICROCOMPUTERS, but the description seems to indicate that I would need Windows 8 and Microsoft Office 2010, neither of which I have or could afford on top of the book.

 

http://www.napavalley.edu/Academics/Schedule/Documents/Fall13%20Schedule%20-%20Courses.pdf

 

The other question that begs to be asked here is this - when you say you're "thinking about going into IT", what does that mean?

 

Computer Repair Technician is the one that really stands out to me so far, the down side is it's hard to get a good estimation on there salary. It seems to very from location the same way real estate dose, if this site is a good place to get an idea of what I could be paid I could live with that http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Computer_Repair_Technician/Hourly_Rate money is not the most important part to me but I would like to make more than 15k a year as some sources are suggesting.


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 07:19 AM

Hey there Loki Grim, thanks for the update.

 

Knowing now that Computer Repair Technician is the one that speaks to you, I would definitely encourage you to check out the A+ certification from CompTia, which among all the certs you can get - and there are many - this is pretty much the entry level one and would most likely fill out a resume nicely, esp. if you were applying for a Computer Repair Technician.

 

Here's a link to the CompTia website.

 

I would think that having an A+ certification as well as degree would put you way ahead of most of the other candidates.

 

As for the monies you'll make...I can't speak to that. I'm not getting into this because I'm worried about monies, I'm doing it because I love it and I'd rather go to a job I love every day than go to a job that pays well and that I hate. Life is too short to be chasing a dollar.

 

That's my personal opinion but I respect your desire to make some cash along the way, I just don't have anything to offer regarding that.

 

Also, I would strongly suggest and echo Elise's statement about going to the school, sitting down with a Guidance Counselor there and saying, "this is what i want to do, what classes / track do I need to be on to make that happen?

 

Without that, I would be worried that you would be picking the wrong classes and possibly wasting both time and money.  They (the Counselors) might also know of some other opportunities that you might not. I've bugged the heck out of my Counselor and have been all the better for it.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Good luck on the journey and we'll see you in the Forums.

 

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 10:33 AM

 

The semester starts around the end of next month, I can't contact a college councilor, find out what book I need, or even get into contact with the person(s) who know anything about this class until the end of this month from what I was told at the main office over there. 

 

 

Then you really have no other option than waiting and in the mean time, use some google to get familiar with the terms used.

 

My personal recommendation when looking for courses/studies and the like, aim for what you'd love to do, not what pays the most. Its nice to earn a few bucks an hour more but if you're bored or not liking what you do on a daily basis in my opinion that doesn't balance out well. Quite aside, what pays better now may not pay as well within a few years, so basing a career/study choice on that is a bit pointless. :)


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 12:00 PM

@Elise

 

 

Then you really have no other option than waiting and in the mean time, use some google to get familiar with the terms used.

 

Yeah, thinking about it now I think I'll hold off another semester when the college has more computer classes to offer like the one's in the Spring 2011 catalog that noknojon posted. That would also give me time to talk with a college Guidance Counselor.

 

aim for what you'd love to do

 

That's what I'm going to do, the only reason why I brought up money is because I want to be make enough to at least pay for my own apartment. I like both the idea of going into the health field specifically E.M.T or going into IT as a Computer Repair Tech. It's just the variables that I'm looking at such as income, job stability, ext..

 

@Winterland Thank you for the link to the site you gave me, I'll take a close look at it when I have more time kinda a busy day, and thanks for the other advice.

 

 

@noknojon Well.. One of us needs to learn how to better utilize Google, could be me.. I'm confused fell dumb haha :scratchhead: . But you did remind me of how the classes change each semester.

 

Thanks for the feedback the three of you, really appreciate it!






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