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Your thoughts and opinons on the Snowden Case and NSA?


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#1 sh4rkbyt3

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Posted 14 July 2013 - 02:12 AM

Not sure if this is the correct place but I couldn't find anything specific to post it to that would be appropriate.

 

Just curious as to people's opinons and views on the whole debacle. No right or wrong answers, just your insight and opinon please?


Edited by hamluis, 14 July 2013 - 06:01 AM.
Moved from Breaking News to Gen Chat - Hamluis.


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Posted 14 July 2013 - 02:13 AM

We're all going to jail, hooray, also don't trust the government.

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Posted 16 July 2013 - 12:44 PM

Big deal ! BIG YAWN !


Edited by yabbadoo, 16 July 2013 - 12:54 PM.


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Posted 19 July 2013 - 08:35 AM

My thoughts. http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/497983/time-for-a-second-american-revolution/page-2

Edited by Crazy Cat, 19 July 2013 - 08:39 AM.

 

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 08:45 AM

I don't quite know about a revolution but the complacency displayed by some is exactly why things are allowed to be the way they are. Never challenge a thing, just be a pasty head nodder and follow along like a good little dog? No sorry, that's not what this country was founded on.
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Posted 10 August 2013 - 07:44 PM

NSA gets burned by a sysadmin, decides to burn 90% of its sysadmins. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/09/snowden_nsa_to_sack_90_per_cent_sysadmins_keith_alexander/
 

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Posted 12 August 2013 - 11:04 PM

ok i am now caught in this topic. I need time to read the links above before commenting further.

 

My most recent favorite reply to anything or anyone I don't agree with (such as the whole mess with our privacy and security being compromised):

 

That. Is. Unfortunate.



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Posted 12 August 2013 - 11:36 PM

isn't that the guy who acquired asylum from Russia after a U.S. manhunt?  accused of some kind of espionage or something. I saw it in the news, that one guy is causing alot of tension.


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Posted 19 August 2013 - 03:29 AM

Snowden leaked "sensitive" info on the NSA and PRISM projects, though kinda Ironic that the government gets mad when some of THEIR private info is shared. And people are calling snowden a traitor and saying he cost US soldiers their lives, though I have to yet hear of a case that directly links him and his releasing of info causing someone's death.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 06:21 AM

I need time to read the links above before commenting further. My most recent favorite reply to anything or anyone I don't agree with [..] That. Is. Unfortunate.

I have not had my coffee yet, so I am probably completely misunderstanding you. Are you saying that it is unfortunate that one needs to review the data before commenting on a topic with which one doesn't agree? That is the proper way to participate in a civil discussion, so you see, I must be misunderstanding.



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 07:04 AM

g morning.  Same here re. coffee. need coffee. My phrase using unfortunate was a vain attempt at humor and a general reference/reply to situations at work where you have to frame your replies very carefully, but you want that right tone to convey your disagreement.

 

On the topic here, I actually did take time finally to go read the links. When I made that comment, I knew enough to generally comment...so to clarify my position: I do not agree with compromising our privacy and security. And Snowden is not the person who has compromised us.

 

I am on the side of Snowden in this particular thread. I view him as more of a whistle blower than a spy. I don't think it matters if he was a contract employee or that he gave away confidential information or that he fled. I feel our own confidential information has already been compromised by the NSA, and when he saw what was going on, he did what most corporations and the Fed gov would call blowing the whistle. 

 

And that is unfortunate.

 

I also started a thread here on BC in the Speak Easy based on a breaking news story on a somewhat related topic, and Snowden was mentioned there too, so I never circled back here.   

 

Apologies for being vague above.  I appreciate your comments. 

 

I hope that explains better. I love the discussion here, and I really must get coffee.  Stat. 



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 10:30 AM

Whatever the intricacies and implications of this Snowden case, I wish it would disappear.



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 02:30 PM

Interesting development.

The British authorities forced the Guardian newspaper to destroy material leaked by Edward Snowden, its editor has revealed, calling it a "pointless" move that would not prevent further reporting on U.S. and British surveillance programs.


More and quote from: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/20/us-usa-security-snowden-guardian-idUSBRE97I10E20130820

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 09:28 PM

wow, Animal. Thank you and very interesting.

 

And they ('security experts from Britain's secretive Communications Gov HQ') went to the Guardian and destroyed what they knew already existed elsewhere.  These things just get me. Well, idk, a whole lot gets me, I guess.



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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:13 PM

And of course they say they did the right thing:

Britain defends top official's role in halting Snowden reports:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/21/us-usa-security-snowden-may-idUSBRE97K0KK20130821

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