Jump to content


 


Register a free account to unlock additional features at BleepingComputer.com
Welcome to BleepingComputer, a free community where people like yourself come together to discuss and learn how to use their computers. Using the site is easy and fun. As a guest, you can browse and view the various discussions in the forums, but can not create a new topic or reply to an existing one unless you are logged in. Other benefits of registering an account are subscribing to topics and forums, creating a blog, and having no ads shown anywhere on the site.


Click here to Register a free account now! or read our Welcome Guide to learn how to use this site.

Photo

10 NOT recommended programs to run


  • Please log in to reply
11 replies to this topic

#1 Sirawit

Sirawit

    Bleepin' Brony


  • Malware Response Team
  • 4,162 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Thailand
  • Local time:04:28 PM

Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:20 PM

Hi. This is 10 programs kind that you should not run in your computer for securty reason or damage your systems.

 

1.Programs that never update

 

This is very clear, many programs have critical exploit that malware can use them to infected your computer. The programs that mostly have this problem is Windows itself, Adobe Flash Player, Java and all Internet Browsers. Be sure that automatic update is enabled. Or your program will not be protected by programs vendors that trying to update the fix for critical bug or sort of like that.

 

2.Registry Fixer/Cleaner

 

Registry is where your operating system and programs store theirs options in it like a very big and fragile database, all of Windows functions,windows booting parameters,file extensions database,user settings,program settings,and much much more million entries in it. A little bit wrong when modifing Registry can render your systems unusable. So those programs will perform action that involved with edit,delete or create registry key. Almost all information they give to you is technical information that hard to understand and most will apply changes without read anything. Not many programs create backup before apply changes,so I recommended you not to run any registry cleaner/fixer.

 

3.Crack/Keygen/Patch

 

This is really common. If you feels don't like to buy a program. You will head for somewhere give you a crack/patch/keygen that allow using programs for free. But there are hidden costs,"Virus". You will never know that your systems got infected because you are who receive it in.(Trojan, you knows.) These viruses can keystroke your keyboard for credit card number,password,or anything you typed into your keyboard. You don't like to pay for 10$ of program? Virus will steal your credit card number and spend 10000$ for you. If you really don't want to buy programs right now, there are 3 alternative choices:

 

1.Try free version: Almost all programs that not free allowyou to try it for free like 30 days, you will know you like it or not, so after you bought it, you will really like it,and you will spread a word about it,that good for programs vendors too. Win-Win.

 

2.Buy it: Easiest option,buy it, and got legitmate programs,but you have to be sure that you really like it,not just because promotion. Also be sure that it is not a rogue programs.

 

3.Search for free alternatives: Many people feels like you too about programs prices, and if they are experts, they may create free alternatives. (programs that free and have nearly options of paid one.) Good examples are : OpenOffice Instead of MicrosoftOffice , Photobooth instead of YouCam , Youtube downloader extensions for firefox instead of IDM. etc.

 

4. Options programs in other programs installer

 

When you download program from sites like cnet or brothersoft, you will get its installer instead of real file,and in it will have like 4 parts in it: License Agreement,main program EULA,options and installation. The worst things is Options, there are many programs they like you to download and 90% of them are Browser Hijacker or unusable toolbars. Read everything before process to next installation steps,unchecker every optional programs. The examples of these optionals are ask toolbar,delta toolbar,babylon,Hao123, etc.

 

5.Free programs that untrustable/Unknown Publishers

 

Unknown Publisher, no support for errors and maybe tools for hackers. Untrustable = danger and avoid.

Two words above must be remember before download any programs that you will download, research about it a bit before download,and you will see its reputation,reviews and Malware reports. Some programs make their website looks professional but its just "the cover", your decision to download or not is the hardest part of malware to infect the computer.(Except worms.)

After you download, noone knows what happen next, so please check before download.

 

6.Unclear Extensions

 

Sometimes you got files in your mail attachment that pretend to be a image with .jpg extensions,but it maybe .jpg and follow with long blank then ".exe"? Or your computer set to hide extensions? So,if you don't know its real extension,don't open it. Easiest way to determine what its extension is to right click at it > Properties and it will show "Type of file" so you will know you got trick or not.

 

7.Random Antivirus

 

Not all antivirus can be safe programs, many rogue antivirus had been found,so if you don't sure that its safe or not,use programs from Major companies, not random. Many companies allow you to use them for free, like Avast, McAFee, AVG or Avira.

 

8.Nuke programs

 

 Nuke programs are programs that allow you to do nasty things to other computers in the network remotely.(Like shutdown, display message, or delete everything.) But many times,it turn to be that program nuke your computer instead. So care about communites computers like you care of yourself one.

 

9.Unreadable/Foreign Lauguages

 

These are really bad when you try to use some programs but you cannot read what some buttons do. This can led to many problems. I got really bad experience when I try to use Russian program to do something with Windows, but I don't know what button to click so I random and BOOM! All drivers gone. So Please don't do anything if you cannot understand it.

 

10.Email Attachments with suspicious title or sender

 

This is how ILoveYou worm spread. Send out email like loveletter, trick you to open and boom. So Check sender before oprn attachments or email.(Some malware configure itself to infect from opening email, even when you not open attachments.) If your friends change language to speak with you, freind said his/her computer got infected,Ad Email or email in spam box. Delete emails come from friends when they said they don't send anything to you, and all emails in spam box.(Open them only when there is evidence items in that email is safe.) And you won't easily get infected.

 

 

Thats it! Hope you like it!

 


If I don't reply back to you in 2 days, feel free to send me a PM.

 

“You’re lying… just like you were lying to me before. You have to hate me. I’ve been the worst daughter in the world… you should hate me.”

“But I don’t, Nyx. Because, Nyx, I’m your mother, and a mother will always love her daughter, no matter what.” -Past sins by Pen stroke.


BC AdBot (Login to Remove)

 


#2 Sirawit

Sirawit

    Bleepin' Brony

  • Topic Starter

  • Malware Response Team
  • 4,162 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Thailand
  • Local time:04:28 PM

Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:24 PM

Sorry but I really don;t know what topic will fit this, if any staff have any suggestion, can you move this thread to another sections?

 

Thank you.


If I don't reply back to you in 2 days, feel free to send me a PM.

 

“You’re lying… just like you were lying to me before. You have to hate me. I’ve been the worst daughter in the world… you should hate me.”

“But I don’t, Nyx. Because, Nyx, I’m your mother, and a mother will always love her daughter, no matter what.” -Past sins by Pen stroke.


#3 mainer21

mainer21

  • Members
  • 122 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Oregon
  • Local time:01:28 AM

Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:36 PM

The default setting for Java to "check for updates" is 30 days. You will be infected if you wait that long. If you have to use Java, install Secunia Psi to keep your Java and all other software up to date.

#4 yabbadoo

yabbadoo

  • Banned
  • 510 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Local time:10:28 AM

Posted 13 July 2013 - 03:48 PM

I find this thread so fundamental, I am lost for words.

 

Oddly enough, I have several of those kind of programs and I would not be without them.


Edited by yabbadoo, 13 July 2013 - 04:02 PM.


#5 Sirawit

Sirawit

    Bleepin' Brony

  • Topic Starter

  • Malware Response Team
  • 4,162 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Thailand
  • Local time:04:28 PM

Posted 15 July 2013 - 05:03 AM

I find this thread so fundamental, I am lost for words.

 

Oddly enough, I have several of those kind of programs and I would not be without them.

Any example? Please?


If I don't reply back to you in 2 days, feel free to send me a PM.

 

“You’re lying… just like you were lying to me before. You have to hate me. I’ve been the worst daughter in the world… you should hate me.”

“But I don’t, Nyx. Because, Nyx, I’m your mother, and a mother will always love her daughter, no matter what.” -Past sins by Pen stroke.


#6 yabbadoo

yabbadoo

  • Banned
  • 510 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Local time:10:28 AM

Posted 15 July 2013 - 06:31 AM

 

I find this thread so fundamental, I am lost for words.

 

Oddly enough, I have several of those kind of programs and I would not be without them.

Any example? Please?

 

YES I do have very useful programs which defy your 10  commandments, but I am not going to quote them. The reason is that if I do, it will only lead to a fruitless and petty squabble, which I have no time or interest to pursue.

 

So we will leave it at that, I have made my comments on your thread and will say no more.



#7 Sirawit

Sirawit

    Bleepin' Brony

  • Topic Starter

  • Malware Response Team
  • 4,162 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Thailand
  • Local time:04:28 PM

Posted 15 July 2013 - 06:32 AM

No problem.


If I don't reply back to you in 2 days, feel free to send me a PM.

 

“You’re lying… just like you were lying to me before. You have to hate me. I’ve been the worst daughter in the world… you should hate me.”

“But I don’t, Nyx. Because, Nyx, I’m your mother, and a mother will always love her daughter, no matter what.” -Past sins by Pen stroke.


#8 yabbadoo

yabbadoo

  • Banned
  • 510 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Local time:10:28 AM

Posted 15 July 2013 - 06:48 AM

No problem.

Sirawit, 

That reply shows great diplomacy and understanding. I am so impressed with your interpretation of my final post. I meant nothing disparaging in any of my posted remarks, just outlining my own opinions, which is what any thread is all about.

 

Some you win and some you lose eh ?

 

Thank you so much.

Kind regards to you

Yabba

 

PS - เครื่องขูด ขอบคุณ

AND your English is very good.


Edited by yabbadoo, 15 July 2013 - 07:24 AM.


#9 AdagioBoognish

AdagioBoognish

  • Members
  • 111 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:[ PDX ]
  • Local time:02:28 AM

Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:56 PM

You think most of these would be common sense, but I've had to remove registry cleaners or programs to 'boost your pc's speed' from a handful of computers. This thread should be printed out and packaged with Dell and HP computers.



#10 Elio Bruni

Elio Bruni

  • Members
  • 5 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Local time:12:28 PM

Posted 19 September 2013 - 05:36 AM

Yeah, great! Thanx!



#11 TheChunkWorld

TheChunkWorld

  • Members
  • 21 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Local time:10:28 AM

Posted 03 October 2013 - 12:10 PM

I disagree with #2 Registry Cleaner, cCleaner has a registry fixer/cleaner and it works fine, causes no issues whatsoever.



#12 Animal

Animal

    Bleepin' Animinion


  • Site Admin
  • 35,905 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Where You Least Expect Me To Be
  • Local time:01:28 AM

Posted 07 October 2013 - 06:56 PM

You may disagree with #2 but the Official Bleeping Computer position is as follows:

Bleeping Computer DOES NOT recommend the use of registry cleaners/optimizers for several reasons:

Registry cleaners are extremely powerful applications that can damage the registry by using aggressive cleaning routines and cause your computer to become unbootable.

The Windows registry is a central repository (database) for storing configuration data, user settings and machine-dependent settings, and options for the operating system. It contains information and settings for all hardware, software, users, and preferences. Whenever a user makes changes to settings, file associations, system policies, or installed software, the changes are reflected and stored in this repository. The registry is a crucial component because it is where Windows "remembers" all this information, how it works together, how Windows boots the system and what files it uses when it does. The registry is also a vulnerable subsystem, in that relatively small changes done incorrectly can render the system inoperable. For a more detailed explanation, read Understanding The Registry.

Not all registry cleaners are created equal. There are a number of them available but they do not all work entirely the same way. Each vendor uses different criteria as to what constitutes a "bad entry". One cleaner may find entries on your system that will not cause problems when removed, another may not find the same entries, and still another may want to remove entries required for a program to work.

Not all registry cleaners create a backup of the registry before making changes. If the changes prevent the system from booting up, then there is no backup available to restore it in order to regain functionality. A backup of the registry is essential BEFORE making any changes to the registry.

Improperly removing registry entries can hamper malware disinfection and make the removal process more difficult if your computer becomes infected. For example, removing malware related registry entries before the infection is properly identified can contribute to system instability and even make the malware undetectable to removal tools.

The usefulness of cleaning the registry is highly overrated and can be dangerous. In most cases, using a cleaner to remove obsolete, invalid, and erroneous entries does not affect system performance but it can result in "unpredictable results".

Unless you have a particular problem that requires a registry edit to correct it, I would suggest you leave the registry alone. Using registry cleaning tools unnecessarily or incorrectly could lead to disastrous effects on your operating system such as preventing it from ever starting again. For routine use, the benefits to your computer are negligible while the potential risks are great.More on this can also be found here: [url=http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/407147/answers-to-common-security-questions-best-practices/?p=2853053]Why you should not use Registry Cleaners and Optimization Tools[/url

The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.
Andrew Brown (1938-1994)


A learning experience is one of those things that say, "You know that thing you just did? Don't do that." Douglas Adams (1952-2001)


"Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination circles the world." Albert Einstein (1879-1955)


Follow BleepingComputer on: Facebook | Twitter | Google+




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users