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#1 kurisuto

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Posted 16 June 2013 - 05:58 PM

Hello all,

 

My PC makes me mad, it seems like I've been having problems with it ever since I bought it, some...7 years ago I guess? Anyway, this time it's even more annoying than most other problems I've had: it crashes when I close some programs, especially those that are using a lot of RAM. The typical case is when I close Firefox: I usually have at least 20 tabs (currently 27) open at once, and according to task manager (which I always have open) FF usually takes up about 300 Mo of RAM (or is that bytes, I'm not very computer-savvy). I have 4 Go of RAM installed though IIRC due to Vista 32 limitations, only 3 are effective? But I'm digressing; the point is, when I close Firefox, it, well, closes, I mean the window, but the process is still active in the task manager, and after a few seconds, my PC crashes. I think it sometimes gives me the BSOD, but most of the time the screen goes black and nothing happens anymore, with my PC still on.

 

Did some tests with other relatively high memory usage programs, and sure enough, when I close them, my PC crashes. Weirdly enough, it does it too when I close the Windows Picture Gallery (or whatever the default picture viewing tool is called in English. I'm using Vista in French).

 

Hope someone can help!


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Posted 17 June 2013 - 08:53 AM

Welcome to BC :).

 

Please download MiniToolBox  , save it to your desktop and run it.

 

Checkmark the following checkboxes:

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  List Installed Programs

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Click Go and paste the content into your next post.

 

Also...please Publish a Snapshot using Speccy - http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic323892.html/page__p__1797792#entry1797792 , taking care to post the link.

 

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Posted 18 June 2013 - 02:18 PM

Thanks for the welcome and the help!

 

Here's the Speccy snapshot, and below is the MTB log -- IDK how much of a problem it will be for you, but some of it is in French! Most of the things I do on the net, I do them in English (mostly because the English-speaking community is larger and more active than the French one), but I didn't really think such a problem would arise when I joined BC. Of course if you need something translated, you can let me know.

 

Anyway:

 

MiniToolBox by Farbar  Version: 16-06-2013
Ran by kirua (administrator) on 18-06-2013 at 20:53:04
Running from "C:\Users\kirua\Downloads"
Windows Vista ™ Home Premium Service Pack 2 (X86)
Boot Mode: Normal
***************************************************************************

========================= Event log errors: ===============================

Application errors:
==================
Error: (06/18/2013 02:11:15 PM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledSPRetry 60250925

Error: (06/18/2013 02:11:15 PM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledEvent 60250925

Error: (06/18/2013 02:11:15 PM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: Continuously busy for more than a second

Error: (06/18/2013 02:11:10 PM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledSPRetry 60245511

Error: (06/18/2013 02:11:10 PM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledEvent 60245511

Error: (06/18/2013 02:11:10 PM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: Continuously busy for more than a second

Error: (06/18/2013 02:11:08 PM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledSPRetry 60243515

Error: (06/18/2013 02:11:08 PM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledEvent 60243515

Error: (06/18/2013 02:11:08 PM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: Continuously busy for more than a second

Error: (06/17/2013 09:27:06 PM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledSPRetry 2434


System errors:
=============
Error: (06/17/2013 07:24:35 PM) (Source: Dhcp) (User: )
Description: Le bail de l'adresse IP 10.109.246.154 pour la carte réseau dont l'adresse réseau est 000854ADBD23 a été refusé par le serveur DHCP 192.168.1.1 (celui-ci a envoyé un message DHCPNACK).

Error: (06/17/2013 07:24:22 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: NVIDIA Update Service Daemon%%1069

Error: (06/17/2013 07:24:22 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: nvUpdatusService.\UpdatusUser%%1330

Error: (06/17/2013 07:20:52 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: DW
i8042prt

Error: (06/17/2013 07:20:50 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: NetGroup Packet Filter Driver%%2

Error: (06/17/2013 07:20:29 PM) (Source: EventLog) (User: )
Description: L'arrêt système précédant à 19:17:30 le 17/06/2013 n'était pas prévu.

Error: (06/17/2013 07:07:01 PM) (Source: Dhcp) (User: )
Description: Le bail de l'adresse IP 10.108.150.10 pour la carte réseau dont l'adresse réseau est 000854ADBD23 a été refusé par le serveur DHCP 192.168.1.1 (celui-ci a envoyé un message DHCPNACK).

Error: (06/16/2013 01:40:12 PM) (Source: DCOM) (User: )
Description: {4EB61BAC-A3B6-4760-9581-655041EF4D69}

Error: (06/15/2013 02:31:03 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: NVIDIA Update Service Daemon%%1069

Error: (06/15/2013 02:31:03 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: nvUpdatusService.\UpdatusUser%%1330


Microsoft Office Sessions:
=========================

CodeIntegrity Errors:
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  Date: 2013-04-22 00:39:58.400
  Description: Le module d’intégrité du code ne peut pas vérifier l’intégrité image du fichier \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\drivers\avgidshx.sys car le jeu de hachages d’images par page n’a pas été trouvé sur le système.

  Date: 2013-04-22 00:39:57.870
  Description: Le module d’intégrité du code ne peut pas vérifier l’intégrité image du fichier \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\drivers\avgidshx.sys car le jeu de hachages d’images par page n’a pas été trouvé sur le système.

  Date: 2013-04-22 00:39:57.339
  Description: Le module d’intégrité du code ne peut pas vérifier l’intégrité image du fichier \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\drivers\avgidshx.sys car le jeu de hachages d’images par page n’a pas été trouvé sur le système.

  Date: 2013-04-22 00:39:56.762
  Description: Le module d’intégrité du code ne peut pas vérifier l’intégrité image du fichier \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\drivers\avgidshx.sys car le jeu de hachages d’images par page n’a pas été trouvé sur le système.

  Date: 2013-04-21 19:19:37.245
  Description: Le module d’intégrité du code ne peut pas vérifier l’intégrité image du fichier \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\drivers\SETAF87.tmp car le jeu de hachages d’images par page n’a pas été trouvé sur le système.

  Date: 2013-04-21 19:19:36.725
  Description: Le module d’intégrité du code ne peut pas vérifier l’intégrité image du fichier \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\drivers\SETAF87.tmp car le jeu de hachages d’images par page n’a pas été trouvé sur le système.

  Date: 2013-04-21 19:19:36.199
  Description: Le module d’intégrité du code ne peut pas vérifier l’intégrité image du fichier \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\drivers\SETAF87.tmp car le jeu de hachages d’images par page n’a pas été trouvé sur le système.

  Date: 2013-04-21 19:19:35.678
  Description: Le module d’intégrité du code ne peut pas vérifier l’intégrité image du fichier \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Windows\System32\drivers\SETAF87.tmp car le jeu de hachages d’images par page n’a pas été trouvé sur le système.

  Date: 2013-04-21 19:17:22.717
  Description: Le module d’intégrité du code ne peut pas vérifier l’intégrité image du fichier \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Program Files\AVG\AVG2013\Drivers\avgidsdriverx.sys car le jeu de hachages d’images par page n’a pas été trouvé sur le système.

  Date: 2013-04-21 19:17:22.097
  Description: Le module d’intégrité du code ne peut pas vérifier l’intégrité image du fichier \Device\HarddiskVolume2\Program Files\AVG\AVG2013\Drivers\avgidsdriverx.sys car le jeu de hachages d’images par page n’a pas été trouvé sur le système.


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Percentage of memory in use: 61%
Total physical RAM: 3070.83 MB
Available physical RAM: 1182.79 MB
Total Pagefile: 6359.91 MB
Available Pagefile: 4394.73 MB
Total Virtual: 2047.88 MB
Available Virtual: 1953.5 MB

========================= Partitions: =====================================

1 Drive c: (HDD) (Fixed) (Total:224.88 GB) (Free:19.99 GB) NTFS
3 Drive e: (500GB) (Fixed) (Total:465.76 GB) (Free:390.06 GB) NTFS

========================= Users: ========================================

comptes d'utilisateurs de \\PC-DE-KIRUA

Administrateur           ASPNET                   Invit‚                   
kirua                    UpdatusUser              
La commande s'est termin‚e correctement.


**** End of log ****
 

 

 

 



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Posted 18 June 2013 - 04:19 PM

 
AVG-Secure-Search-Update_JUNE2013_TB_rmv
 
avast! Emergency Update

 

Both reflected in scheduled tasks, please remove the AVG item from scheduling.

 

ToolbarUpdater.exe      Process ID: 2472      User: SYSTEM      Domain: AUTORITE NT
Path: C:\Program Files\Common Files\AVG Secure Search\vToolbarUpdater\15.2.0\ToolbarUpdater.exe
Memory Usage: 7,55 MB      Peak Memory Usage:             8,22 MB

 

I would remove that toolbar via Add/Remove Programs.

 

I would also uninstall Spybot and replace with SUPERAntiSpyware.

 

svchost.exe     Process ID: 1204     User: SYSTEM    Domain: AUTORITE NT     Path: C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe
Memory Usage: 87 MB    Peak Memory Usage: 696 MB
 
This is flagged as possible malware in multiple posts I looked at.  To find out, I will move this topic to Am  I Infected forum.
 
 
BitComet Disk Boost Service is adware.
 
Partition 1      Partition ID: Disk #0, Partition #1      Disk Letter: C:      File System: NTFS      Volume Serial Number: 908DFCEB
Size: 225 GB  Used Space:    205 GB (92%)   Free Space:      20,0 GB (8%)
 
Although this low percentage of free space might be a problem on a smaller partition...20GB of free space ought to be sufficient.  I've run Windows with less total free space with no problems.  All the same...I'd move some data files from C: to E, which has lots of space not being used at all.  Videos, music files, and graphic files...can easily be moved and really have no purpose in being on the Windows partition unless the system only has 1 hard drive, with 1 partition created.
 
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Edited by hamluis, 18 June 2013 - 04:19 PM.


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Posted 19 June 2013 - 08:16 AM

Thanks a bunch! I've followed your advices...but it still does it :( And I noticed it even does it when I play a video (with VLC) and that I stop it. I mean, I don't even have to actually close VLC, just to stop the video, and my PC crashes. When I simply pause the video though, it's fine.

 

One additional bit of info...that I should have mentioned earlier: my crashing problems seem to have started when I tried to update my Nvidia drivers (if it's of any importance, I have a GeForce 8300 GS) through Windows Update. At some point, I downgraded to an earlier version, and my problems seemed to stop, but I couldn't tell exactly if it was thanks to the downgrading since I had also been fiddling with other stuffs (for instance, around the same time I had also changed my firewall because it conflicted with iTunes and some live streaming sites. Had also switched to another antivirus because AVG was getting really annoying). Either way, it's possible that Windows Update automatically updated the Nvidia driver since then, which could explain why the problems have come back, but I tried to downgrade again, and the problems continue, so I'm not sure it comes from there... But, if it comes from there, maybe what I thought was my PC crashing was really just my display freezing? Then again, sometimes I get a BSOD, OR my PC reboots without asking, OR my screen goes dark and nothing happens, OR it just freezes... It's confusing. And anyway, if it's really my GPU driver, I wonder why the problems arise when I close Firefox.






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