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#1 Dark Magician Girl

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 10:55 PM

I have a Dell XPS 410, and I need to replace the graphic card and increase the amount of RAM it has. The specs can be found here. The RAM I was looking at can be found here. I will be using this computer for schoolwork, watching anime, and maybe gaming but mostly schoolwork and watching anime. I intend to dual-boot the computer with Win XP and Linux (probably Mint Xfce). I will probably upgrade Win XP to Win 7 in the near future. Is the RAM I posted okay? What are my options for graphic cards?

 

 



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 12:55 AM

Hi, the ram you posted should be compatible but remember you will have to take the current 1GB ram stick out as running 3GB isn't a good idea. In terms of graphics card your pretty limited as you the power supply is only 375W based on some research but what games do you plan to play?


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 05:50 AM

WIN7 will like 4 gigs of RAM.  The RAM linked above is 1.9v, stock voltage is 1.8v.  I do not know what BIOS options you have to adjust voltage or timing..

http://www.amazon.com/1GBx2-Upgrade-System-PC2-5300-NON-ECC/dp/B004AAWHTI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1370341013&sr=8-2&keywords=ct573001

 

As far as videocards, almost any mid range card will be an improvement. As killerx525 pointed out your current power supply might limit your choices.


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:52 AM

WIN7 will like 4 gigs of RAM.  The RAM linked above is 1.9v, stock voltage is 1.8v.  I do not know what BIOS options you have to adjust voltage or timing..

http://www.amazon.com/1GBx2-Upgrade-System-PC2-5300-NON-ECC/dp/B004AAWHTI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1370341013&sr=8-2&keywords=ct573001

 

As far as videocards, almost any mid range card will be an improvement. As killerx525 pointed out your current power supply might limit your choices.

 

Great price on those ram, i believe it would worth to buy 2 kit.


Edited by killerx525, 04 June 2013 - 09:55 AM.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 01:06 PM

Hi, the ram you posted should be compatible but remember you will have to take the current 1GB ram stick out as running 3GB isn't a good idea. In terms of graphics card your pretty limited as you the power supply is only 375W based on some research but what games do you plan to play?

 

I would like to be able to play MMORPGs, such as Aion, Guild Wars 2, or the upcoming WildStar. I can already play Aion using the default graphic settings without any lag, except when I go into major cities, in which case I lag tremendously. I haven't had any problem doing any quests, though. I forgot to mention that I need to be able to play 10-bit video smoothly. Can I upgrade the power supply? Is it costly?



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 01:26 PM

WIN7 will like 4 gigs of RAM.  The RAM linked above is 1.9v, stock voltage is 1.8v.  I do not know what BIOS options you have to adjust voltage or timing..

http://www.amazon.com/1GBx2-Upgrade-System-PC2-5300-NON-ECC/dp/B004AAWHTI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1370341013&sr=8-2&keywords=ct573001

 

As far as videocards, almost any mid range card will be an improvement. As killerx525 pointed out your current power supply might limit your choices.

 

I take it a Win 7 32-bit has the capacity to take advantage of 4 gigs of RAM then? If so, this is great. I can order 2 kits as killerx525 suggested. Speaking of bit architecture, how do I determine if my processor is capable of supporting the 64 bit architecture? Also, is there any difference in performance between the RAM I linked to and the RAM you linked to?



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:55 PM

 

WIN7 will like 4 gigs of RAM.  The RAM linked above is 1.9v, stock voltage is 1.8v.  I do not know what BIOS options you have to adjust voltage or timing..

http://www.amazon.com/1GBx2-Upgrade-System-PC2-5300-NON-ECC/dp/B004AAWHTI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1370341013&sr=8-2&keywords=ct573001

 

As far as videocards, almost any mid range card will be an improvement. As killerx525 pointed out your current power supply might limit your choices.

 

I take it a Win 7 32-bit has the capacity to take advantage of 4 gigs of RAM then? If so, this is great. I can order 2 kits as killerx525 suggested. Speaking of bit architecture, how do I determine if my processor is capable of supporting the 64 bit architecture? Also, is there any difference in performance between the RAM I linked to and the RAM you linked to?

 

 

Unfortunately, you must have 64bit Windows 7 to take the full advantage of 4GB of ram. If you google your processor and find Intel's specifications, it says "Intel 64 - Yes". They both run at different speeds but you basically never notice that high clocked speed of the ram.

 

Hi, the ram you posted should be compatible but remember you will have to take the current 1GB ram stick out as running 3GB isn't a good idea. In terms of graphics card your pretty limited as you the power supply is only 375W based on some research but what games do you plan to play?

 

I would like to be able to play MMORPGs, such as Aion, Guild Wars 2, or the upcoming WildStar. I can already play Aion using the default graphic settings without any lag, except when I go into major cities, in which case I lag tremendously. I haven't had any problem doing any quests, though. I forgot to mention that I need to be able to play 10-bit video smoothly. Can I upgrade the power supply? Is it costly?

 

Guild Wars 2 is fairly demanding and it is possible to upgrade the power supply. Do you have a budget for the graphics card and power supply?


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Posted 04 June 2013 - 10:13 PM

Thanks for the link. I can run the 64 bit architecture then, so I shouldn't need to worry about that. I should probably go with the ram dpunisher linked to so I can get two kits at a cheaper price. I figure the additional RAM will outweigh whatever performance increase the RAM I linked to gives anyway. I am not sure about a budget, but I would generally like to get something that's cheaper but still provides great benefit.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 12:28 AM

Thanks for the link. I can run the 64 bit architecture then, so I shouldn't need to worry about that. I should probably go with the ram dpunisher linked to so I can get two kits at a cheaper price. I figure the additional RAM will outweigh whatever performance increase the RAM I linked to gives anyway. I am not sure about a budget, but I would generally like to get something that's cheaper but still provides great benefit.

The Seasonic G-550 is a 550W gold efficiency power supply which is modular allowing you to keep it tidy while not blocking any airflow and also this power supply is super reliable with very low rate of failures compared to the competition. For the graphics card, the AMD Radeon HD7850 is basically the best value card to get in terms of price/performance plus you get 3 free games which are Tomb Raider(love the game and the graphics is epic), Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon and Bioshock Infinite(beautiful storyline to it). After rebates, it is $140 which is fantastic price!


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 06:24 AM

Windows 7 32-bit can easily run 4GB of memory, but a large chunk of that memory will be reserved, so only about 3GB or so will be available for use.  You need a 64-bit compatible CPU, which you have, and a copy of Windows 7 or 8 64-bit to use all 4GB or more of RAM.  Before installing a new graphics card or PSU, make sure your case has space for them.  If your Dell PC uses standard off-the-shelf PC parts, you should have no issues running a normal ATX power supply. 


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:32 AM

I pulled up the service manual for this XPS410, and it looks like it uses that bastard child BTX case, and the power supply picture looks like a BTX instead of an ATX.  This might make a PSU upgrade a bit of a deal breaker.


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Posted 05 June 2013 - 09:45 AM

I pulled up the service manual for this XPS410, and it looks like it uses that bastard child BTX case, and the power supply picture looks like a BTX instead of an ATX.  This might make a PSU upgrade a bit of a deal breaker.

Some dude managed to chuck in a massive PC & Power Cooling 750W.

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Posted 06 June 2013 - 11:09 PM

Sorry for the delay. I'm still waiting to get the chance to discuss this with my parents. In the mean time, I found another RAM kit. The RAM kit is about 20 dollars cheaper than the kit dpunisher linked to for the same amount of RAM. Also, this RAM is 800 mhz vs the 667 mhz dpunisher linked to, right? Or, am I mistaken? 

 

http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-PC2-6400-240-Pin-Desktop-CT2CP25664AA800/dp/B0011A4UZE/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1370577231&sr=1-6&keywords=crucial+800+mhz+ddr2

 

Is this RAM okay? Taken from the manual for Dell XPS 410: Memory - Type dual-channel 533-, 667-, and 800-MHz DDR2

 

Also, what is paired RAM? The manual says the RAM for the Dell XPS 410 should be matching pairs. I looked it up, and I still don't understand what is meant by paired RAM.



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Posted 07 June 2013 - 12:49 AM

Sorry for the delay. I'm still waiting to get the chance to discuss this with my parents. In the mean time, I found another RAM kit. The RAM kit is about 20 dollars cheaper than the kit dpunisher linked to for the same amount of RAM. Also, this RAM is 800 mhz vs the 667 mhz dpunisher linked to, right? Or, am I mistaken? 

 

http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-PC2-6400-240-Pin-Desktop-CT2CP25664AA800/dp/B0011A4UZE/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1370577231&sr=1-6&keywords=crucial+800+mhz+ddr2

 

Is this RAM okay? Taken from the manual for Dell XPS 410: Memory - Type dual-channel 533-, 667-, and 800-MHz DDR2

 

Also, what is paired RAM? The manual says the RAM for the Dell XPS 410 should be matching pairs. I looked it up, and I still don't understand what is meant by paired RAM.

Unfortunately each ram slot can only take up to 1GB of ram. Matching pairs of ram, is all of the ram stick is identical to each other like the brand and model.


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Posted 07 June 2013 - 05:54 PM

 

Sorry for the delay. I'm still waiting to get the chance to discuss this with my parents. In the mean time, I found another RAM kit. The RAM kit is about 20 dollars cheaper than the kit dpunisher linked to for the same amount of RAM. Also, this RAM is 800 mhz vs the 667 mhz dpunisher linked to, right? Or, am I mistaken? 

 

http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-PC2-6400-240-Pin-Desktop-CT2CP25664AA800/dp/B0011A4UZE/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1370577231&sr=1-6&keywords=crucial+800+mhz+ddr2

 

Is this RAM okay? Taken from the manual for Dell XPS 410: Memory - Type dual-channel 533-, 667-, and 800-MHz DDR2

 

Also, what is paired RAM? The manual says the RAM for the Dell XPS 410 should be matching pairs. I looked it up, and I still don't understand what is meant by paired RAM.

Unfortunately each ram slot can only take up to 1GB of ram. Matching pairs of ram, is all of the ram stick is identical to each other like the brand and model.

 

That's just for this computer, right? So, paired RAM is just identical in make and model? If I get 2 kits of a RAM that dpunisher linked to, that RAM is paired?






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