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Networking Mac OS X with Windows Server 2008


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#1 Guest_slehmann36_*

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 09:40 AM

Mod Edit:  Merged 3 topics, same issue - Hamluis.

 

Hi, 

Im running a home file server on Windows Server 2008 (not R2) Standard and a macbook pro retina running Mac OS X 10.8.2 as the client. the file server is connected to the router via ethernet and the macbook pro is connected to the router via wifi. 

 

The problem is that i can ping the server from the mac and vise versa but they don't recognise each other as computers on the network. i can't see the mac from the server or the server from the mac. so i thought i could just connect another windows7 home premium machine to the network to try and narrow down the issue. when i connected the additional PC, the network ran perfectly (i could now see the server from the mac and vise versa). i thought that was very strange so i disconnected the additional PC from the network to make sure this wasn't just a coincidence. no, sure enough, the server and the mac stopped recognising each other once again. 

 

Does anyone have any ideas on what the additional pc is automatically doing fr the network that is still yet to be set up on the server (or mac)???

 

 

Any help will be much appreciated.

 

Thanks

 

 

Simon Lehmann


Edited by hamluis, 05 June 2013 - 11:16 AM.


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 09:42 AM

Hi, 

Im running a home file server on Windows Server 2008 (not R2) Standard and a macbook pro retina running Mac OS X 10.2 as the client. the file server is connected to the router via ethernet and the macbook pro is connected to the router via wifi. 

 

The problem is that i can ping the server from the mac and vise versa but they don't recognise each other as computers on the network. i can't see the mac from the server or the server from the mac. so i thought i could just connect another windows7 home premium machine to the network to try and narrow down the issue. when i connected the additional PC, the network ran perfectly (i could now see the server from the mac and vise versa). i thought that was very strange so i disconnected the additional PC from the network to make sure this wasn't just a coincidence. no, sure enough, the server and the mac stopped recognising each other once again. 

 

Does anyone have any ideas on what the additional pc is automatically doing fr the network that is still yet to be set up on the server (or mac)???

 

 

Any help will be much appreciated.

 

Thanks

 

 

Simon Lehmann


Edited by hamluis, 05 June 2013 - 11:13 AM.
Merged topics - Hamluis.


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 09:58 AM

Look into AFP (Apple Filing Protocol).  We had some Macs at my job and to get them to communicate with the Windows servers, we used AFP. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Filing_Protocol

 

AFP:\\servername\share


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 10:21 AM

OK thanks. 

 

for me, SMB (smb://<server>/<share>) works ok but its not reliable. also the server wont be automatically recognised by the mac and so it doesn't appear in the shared section of the finder sidebar. nor will the mac be recognised by the server.



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 12:13 PM

I wish I could be more help.  I only took a brief 2 week course on Macs a year ago that was more based on software and where everything is.  I let my Windows side show when I mistakenly used backslashes instead of forward slashes in my AFP example.  :huh:

 

We had some issues using SMB too.  There's a Windows based PC that the Macs had to have a share with.  To get this to work correctly, we had to shut off DHCP and set the PC to static, and direct the SMB to that IP address, this helped the SMB problems. 


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 02:45 PM

Hi, 
Im running a home file server on Windows Server 2008 (not R2) Standard and a macbook pro retina running Mac OS X 10.2 as the client. the file server is connected to the router via ethernet and the macbook pro is connected to the router via wifi. 
 
The problem is that i can ping the server from the mac and vise versa but they don't recognise each other as computers on the network. i can't see the mac from the server or the server from the mac. so i thought i could just connect another windows7 home premium machine to the network to try and narrow down the issue. when i connected the additional PC, the network ran perfectly (i could now see the server from the mac and vise versa). i thought that was very strange so i disconnected the additional PC from the network to make sure this wasn't just a coincidence. no, sure enough, the server and the mac stopped recognising each other once again. 
 
Does anyone have any ideas on what the additional pc is automatically doing fr the network that is still yet to be set up on the server (or mac)???
 
 
Any help will be much appreciated.
 
Thanks
 
 
Simon Lehmann


Have you checked that everything is using the same Windows "workgroup"?

If you don't know where to check it on a Mac running 10.8.x (I assume that is what you mean by 10.2...in other words you mean to say 10.8.2), then look at this:

http://macs.about.com/od/filesharing/ss/Configure-Os-X-Mountain-Lion-S-Workgroup-Name.htm

Windows networking can get "pissy" about what workgroup you use. It is possible that if the workgroup setting of the server and the Mac don't match, then maybe the Windows 7 computer somehow "bridged" that gap.

Edited by smax013, 31 May 2013 - 02:46 PM.


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 02:40 AM

Thanks for the suggestion but the workgroup was one of the first things i checked. It must be some similar setting that the additional PC is bridging though.

 

P.S Thanks for the response


Edited by slehmann36, 01 June 2013 - 02:40 AM.


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Posted 03 June 2013 - 10:41 PM

Trigger is correct, you do need to make sure the Windows PC has a static IP and it usually fix the SMB problems.

You can try browsing the file server using Safari or setting up FTP but Samba is your choice. 

 

You could always sell the mac to someone who owns a boat and buy a PC or get a Linux Box,



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:18 PM

Not wanting this topic to go unanswered, I will have to do more research to see what needs to be done on both computers to be seen. As far as I know if you have the Folder permissions set correctly you should be able to access the file.

 

Edit: How are you trying to connect to the server's shared. Are you connecting to the server using a Username and password or just trying to find the folder in Finder?

 

Edit 2: You may need to upgrade your OSX 10.2 is 11 years old and may not support the correct SMB and folder permissions. 

 

Try this tutorial on 4sysops.com

 

Also a thread Technet, its directed towards 2008 R2 but may be helpful 


Edited by Sneakycyber, 04 June 2013 - 07:26 PM.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 08:48 AM

Edit 2: You may need to upgrade your OSX 10.2 is 11 years old and may not support the correct SMB and folder permissions.


I can say that if it is a Retina MacBook Pro, then it is not actually Mac OS 10.2. More likely it is 10.8.x...maybe 10.8.2. It is possible that it is 10.7.4 or 10.7.5 as the original 15" rMBPs shipped with 10.7.4. As a result, a rBMP will NOT be able to run 10.2.

Also, FWIW, there is a duplicate post in the Mac OS forum.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 02:21 AM

Thanks for the correction smax013. I completely overlooked the retina reference, 99.9% I work on pc's and I'm still learning the ins and outs of Osx and MacBook's.
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Posted 07 June 2013 - 03:21 PM

Thanks for the correction smax013. I completely overlooked the retina reference, 99.9% I work on pc's and I'm still learning the ins and outs of Osx and MacBook's.


Comes from a misspent youth (and beyond) using Macs. :D Been using them since the 80s and generally prefer them to Windows, but more or less equally comfortable in Windows. In the end, a tool is a tool is a tool. ;)




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