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Which component should I upgrade first?


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#1 talaan

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 01:17 AM

I am upgrading my computer gradually rather than buying everything at once. I use an AMD processor but want to switch to Intel i5 or i7 eventually. I am having FPS problems in a video game called TERA Online which I was told is a game that relies heavily on the CPU's performance, rather than on the video card. Which component of my computer can I upgrade to see the biggest difference in FPS performance? RAM, GPU, CPU, Motherboard? I think my RAM is pretty bad, it is 4 GB single channel, and while I have TERA Online running, I only have 100-200 MB of RAM left. I know that running out of RAM effects multitasking between programs, but does it have an effect on Frames per Second in a video game?

 

So, which piece of my hardware is the most likely culprit for low FPS (like 10-15 FPS during fights)?

 

Does having more RAM assist in higher FPS?

 

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 01:20 AM

Your CPU is actually pretty decent and with a bit of overclocking, you can push out more FPS since the game itself is CPU bound. A graphics card upgrade would be the most beneficial upgrade to a increase in FPS. Do you have a budget on how much you want to spend on the upgrades?


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#3 talaan

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 01:29 AM

Thank you for the quick reply.

 

If my processor is good then I can avoid spending the $300 I thought I would have to on an Intel. What do you think about the RAM? Does it effect gaming at all? If it's a graphics card I should upgrade first then I'd want to spend no more than $250 on it. Maybe $300... pushing it though. I see that Crossfire/SLI is very popular but I can't afford two good cards at once. Is a single graphics card capable of providing decent FPS?



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Posted 30 May 2013 - 01:48 AM

Well i the ram may have some effect to the FPS but the major one is the graphics card. A budget of $250 for a graphics card is plenty as you can get a PowerColor 7870XT which is a cut down version of the 7950. The performance is astonishing for it's price plus with some overclocking to it, the performance will be around a stock 7970. Before you purchase it, you should check if your power supply has sufficient wattage and the amount of space in your case.


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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 30 May 2013 - 02:27 AM

I have a Thermaltake TR2 RX 650W power supply. Would that be sufficient? Also my case and motherboard is standard ATX.

 

How do I know without opening/buying the graphics card if I have enough space?

 

Not sure if this picture helps:

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Posted 30 May 2013 - 03:22 AM

650W should be plenty and based from that photo, the graphics card should fit in nicely but you may need to move that top hard drive further down so the airflow to the graphics card isn't restricted. 


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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 30 May 2013 - 07:01 AM

A graphics card update would absolutely help, you can go for either the 7870, like the XFX Double D FX-787A-CDFC Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB or the PNY VCGGTX660TXPB GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB would be excellent choices.  The 660 Ti should be a little bit faster.

 

Windows 7 and 8 utilize RAM differently from previous versions of Windows in that they load frequently used data into it for quicker access.  The reserved memory is released when it is needed by a program.  You could get another 4GB stick of RAM if you want.  Memory prices are going up so if you think you may need more, now is the time to buy.

 

Your CPU should be fine for a little while longer and replacing it can be expensive if you are needing a new motherboard.  If you need a new motherboard, you not only need to buy that, but also a new CPU and a copy of Windows since the license is tied to the motherboard.  Your motherboard is not compatible with current FX series CPU's.

 

You could also go for an SSD to replace your main drive.


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 02:54 AM

Wow I didn't know that about Windows licenses being tied to motherboards. Thank you for letting me know and suggesting some graphics cards :) I buy my parts from Fry's and their selection of 7870 is terrible at the moment -_- but they sure have a lot of 660 Ti, same with BestBuy. BestBuy for some reason doesn't have a lot of Radeon cards but has a ton of nvidia cards.


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Posted 03 June 2013 - 06:38 AM

With the Windows licenses, that is only the case with OEM or system builder editions.  The full, boxed, retail copies of Windows may be moved.  The licensing for Windows 8 is more flexible in that you can move OEM copes between computers that belong to you.  Here's the license.


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Posted 03 June 2013 - 09:13 AM

Wow I didn't know that about Windows licenses being tied to motherboards. Thank you for letting me know and suggesting some graphics cards :) I buy my parts from Fry's and their selection of 7870 is terrible at the moment -_- but they sure have a lot of 660 Ti, same with BestBuy. BestBuy for some reason doesn't have a lot of Radeon cards but has a ton of nvidia cards.

Well Fry's do have the Asus 7870 which is a good card and they also have the Gigabyte.


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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Games: APB: Reloaded, Hours played: 3100+  System2: Late 2011 Macbook Pro 15inch   OFw63FY.png





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