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#1 tektest

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 04:07 PM

Hi,

i just have bought a Minipro TL866CS and received the programmer yesterday.

My main purpose for buying the programmer is to reflash my eeprom on a HP elitebook 8760w.
I have updated my bios with a wrong one, and i'm trying to reflash it with the right one this time, because i cant get in to windows or in to my bios settings this is my only way to do a reflash. I want to use the test clip with the adapter and the minipro programmer.
the chip on my laptop is a winbond 25Q64BV.
i have all the tools to re flash the chip. I want to use the test clip to reflash the chip without desoldering the chip from the motherboard.
i also have the right adapter for the minipro TL866CS.
but every time i try to find the chip with the software its showing a error message
ic is in reverse or damage message or sometimes a diffirent message with:

ID Error! Check the chip correctly? whether contact good pin?
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Check ID Error!
Checked ID is : 0x FF FF FF
Wish to continue programming, please cancel[Check Device ID] option!

 

i know the chip is still ok because i had desolderd the chip before and had use it on a different programmer.
anyway hope someone could help me out how to attach all the test clip cables.
if someone could tell me step by step what to do that would be great.

i will put the links of the manual of the winbond chip and the programmer i have bought below the post.
the one thing i am concerned about are the colors of the test clip i have attached to the adapter and the winbond chip.
here is how i have i attached the test clip i dont know if this is right or wrong: I'm a newbie with this kind of work.
1-Red
2-Brown
3-Black
4-White
5-Yellow
6-Orange
7-Green
8-Blue


the programmer with the testclip and the adapter
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321085105494


the winbond 25Q64BV eeprom manual:
http://www.winbond-usa.com/NR/rdonlyres/591A37FF-007C-4E99-956C-F7EE4A6D9A8F/0/W25Q64BV.pdf

 

 

Test clip with programmer:

http://postimg.org/image/z10mzjzoz/
http://postimg.org/image/66hrmxx9d/

on the picture you see that i have misplaced the colors yellow and orange i already fixed that but the problem is still there with the error message:

ID Error! Check the chip correctly? whether contact good pin?
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Check ID Error!
Checked ID is : 0x FF FF FF
Wish to continue programming, please cancel[Check Device ID] option!

 

i hope there is a explanation for this error

 

 

 

 



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Posted 27 May 2013 - 04:59 PM

Please hang in there I am working on your request for help.

 

What I want to ask you is when you had the EEPROM chip out of the motherboard did you replace it with an IC socket? Anytime I remove a chip for service or repair, I always replace it with a IC socket, if it did not already originally have one. This prevents heat from damaging the IC chip and also prevents further damage from being done to the circuit board by adding and removing questionable parts. It also limits the amount of ESD damage.

 

Again, I am analyzing the information you have so far provided.

 

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 05:17 PM

hi,

 

thanks for the fast reply

to your question no i did not replace it with a IC socket.

the chip is right now solderd to the motherboard. i just want to reflash the chip with the right one this time. i want to use the test clip that is provided with the programmer.

so if someone could only tell me which are the correct colors to attacht to each pin and the adapter my problems will be fixed i think so.

like i said before this is all new for me and im new to this kind of flashing of chips.

so maybe someone could give me alink or a step by step manual how to work with this test clip.

i searched on google there i alsmost noting that is point out how to use the test clips to reflash any chip

so im open for all new solution or suggestions.


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Posted 27 May 2013 - 05:55 PM

Okay I am looking through the manual as I post this, I just wanted to give you a heads up that someone is helping you here. :)

 

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 06:16 PM

Attached File  HP-Elitebook-8740w-Motherboard.jpg   10.56KB   6 downloads

 

 

 

 

That image above look anything like your Mainboard tektest?

 

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 06:42 PM

Also besides answering my question in post #5 can you tell me where and what page you are getting your wire code from this way I can see if it correct for your main board.

 

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 06:47 PM

Thanks a lot bruce for the help and fast replies.
The right motherboard is this one on ebay

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=160933935014

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 06:54 PM

I am on my phone right now but
I will be posting the links and pictures of the color codes when i get home asap.

I have received this information from the ebay seller that i bought the programmer from.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 07:04 PM

Very good, thanks for the e-bay link to the correct motherboard.

 

I want to wait till you post that information before I offer any further advice.

 

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 11:26 AM

Sorry for my late reply, but here are the extra information

 

ok so im trying to flash this bios file it can be founded on the HP download site

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=5071182&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=5071180&swLang=13&taskId=135&swEnvOID=4061#120

 

its the version:  F.40  15 Mar 2013

 

 

 

on this picture you see where the eeprom is located i do get there easly by just opening the back panel, but for really desoldering the chip i have to dis-amble the laptop because i dont have space to desolder the chip. using the test clip there is no problem with space and i can freely use it.

8760w_1.jpg

 

 

and these are some picutres the seller has provided me:

MWSnap055_2013_05_28_18_08_04.jpg

 

MWSnap056_2013_05_28_18_08_18.jpg

 

MWSnap057_2013_05_28_18_08_22.jpg

 

MWSnap058_2013_05_28_18_08_26.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

I know the motherboard isn't that expensive and i could but that or the chip which is also for sale. but i really would like to work this way and don't want to choose the easy way by just buying the chip or motherboard, and it could solve my problems faster, but again with the hard way it would be a good and better learning experience for me.


 


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 12:02 PM

Question, in the last picture you provided us with--the one with the road map that shows your motherboard's chip and the micropro-- have you followed that pin-by-pin and made sure you used VCC power from the mainboard?

 

Your chip is a simple 8 pin EEPROM configuration.

 

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 12:20 PM

Hi bruce and thanks again for the fast reply.
Like i said before im new to this and you can call me a newbie on this one.
Could please explain me more what you main by the mainbord vcc and how to use it with the test clip

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 12:46 PM

Check out this wiki about VCC so that I can put you on the same page in technology as myself.

 

I'll teach you some new things as we go along here.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IC_power_supply_pin

 

After you read that wiki let me know what you have learned from it and we'll go from there. :thumbup2:

 

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 03:39 PM

I just finshed reading the wiki page for the second time.
So if i understand this correctly the board has to deliver the power i always thought that the programmer it self could provide this voltage. But how do i know which correct voltage is the right one.

Correct if my i am wrong
But I have to say my programmer (minipro) does not have any options to choose from when it comes to voltage.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 04:45 PM

Borrowing your image, look at the red colored print at the bottom of the image, then look at the road map.

 

http://postimg.org/image/h240a0mvf/

 

 

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