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#1 CandyAB

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:44 PM

I'm sick and tired of people with no lives infecting my computer! Honestly, what psychotic nerd spends their life putting us all through hell? If they want to prove their intelligence then they should become an astrophysicist or something because playing these games is a behavior best suited towards a child.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:48 PM

Coders and malware distributors are often classified as one, but that may not always be the case.

Numerous coders code maliciously to sell.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:48 AM

Many times, the point is to make money.  Ransomware is prevalent and it does make money for these people.  Folks are sucked into it.  Especially uninformed and older people who are not technically savvy.  It will continue forever I think, unless some technological breakthrough allows us to catch them before they release new malware or viruses.  It will also probably invade our tablets and phones as time goes by too.  Always be careful and skeptical. 


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:33 AM

"Kidnap and ransom can be a profitable business in the world of computers.

In a new report entitled 'Ransomware: A Growing Menace', researchers at Symantec showed just how much. Analyzing a command and control (C&C) server for a single ransomware family, Symantec found that the earnings for the gang behind it hit approximately $394,000 in a single month."

Read more here- http://www.securityweek.com/inside-ransomware-business-how-make-nearly-400000-month


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 04:04 PM

It's not intelligence they are demonstrating. It's a criminal mindset. Low risk high reward with little to zero effort. The weapon of choice happens to be a computer instead of a gun or knife. The ski mask is now the anonymity of hiding behind a keyboard.

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#6 Chris Cosgrove

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 06:39 PM

Back in the day, perhaps before the arrival of Win 95, computer viruses were the work of children - well, technically ambitious teenagers at least - but were largely written without malicious intent. It was more a matter of 'See how clever I am !'.

 

Unhappily, those days are in the past and most of what you might run into is classed as 'malware', which is an abbreviation of 'MALicious softWARE', and its purpose is almost entirely criminal. It is also an unhappy fact that there are some very competent coders out there writing malware. Today, almost all of it is designed to make money - either directly by persuading you to hand it over yourself, or indirectly, by stealiing data from your computer which may have a market value.

 

But you say you are sick and tired of people infecting your computer. Why let them ?  Good security practice can be very cheap and minimises the risk of infection with anything malicious. There are a number of good free anti-virus programs out there, as well as highly effective anti-malware scanners some of which can be downloaded free from this site. Without implying they are the best in the business, I use Avast (free) anti-virus and run Anti-Spyware and Malwarebytes free malware scanners, both available from this site.

 

Prevention is both better and a lot easier than cure !

 

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:42 PM

All good points, Chris Cosgrove, but I see a lot of computers that have a solid AV and MBAM running on them that still get infected.  They always ask me, "I have Norton (or something like it) installed, why am I still getting infected?"  The answer is almost always, "Because you clicked on something."  Now it used to be mostly people who went to porn sites, searched for "warez" and "crackz" to avoid paying for legit software, or people who used file sharing utilities like Morpheus, Limewire, or the like to download songs without paying for them...but now, it's happening to people on legitimate websites (even the New York Times online is not immune).  It's due to maliciously coded java script.  The bad guys buy ad space and that maliciously coded advertisement will initiate a silent download- your antivirus is either subverted, or ignores it because it is user-initiated.  I recommend this- http://www.symantec.com/content/en/us/enterprise/media/security_response/whitepapers/ransomware-a-growing-menace.pdf

It's a quick read.  Anyway, as to OP's original question- you are dead on the money, it's not about showing off, it's all about the cash.


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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:22 PM

Viruses and Malware get put on a computer through Vulnerabilities in Java/Adobe Flash Player also through Internet Explorer Vulnerabilities. Then sometimes they get put on a computer by you clicking on a malicious link or going to a malicious website.



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 08:23 AM

I wish they would stop riding my downloads. Any legit download I try to get now is infected with stupid toolbars and other things. I have had my computer crash twice, and one clean wipe from all that jazz. I am learned in not clicking random links, etc, etc, but what to about when they get in on seemingly legit avenues? 



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 05:08 PM

Ah well, KirbyCodeMonkey, one answer to that is NEVER click on the 'Express' install button for downloaded software - ALWAYS use the 'Custom' install. And the other thing is never blindly hit the install button without having a good look at the installer screen first.

 

Don't worry, I'm not being superior, I get caught out every once in a while too, and then I have to go to the trouble of uninstalling software I never wanted installed in the first place !  It is a pain in the proverbial, but there is an awful lot of very useful downloadable software out there.

 

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 09:13 PM

You guys don't think there is hope? A lot of people are still using unsecured computer's, but the gen X/Y kids and teens are getting more tech savvy every year. I wouldn't doubt it if 25% or more were more technologically competent than their parents. It is simply the age they were born in. Eventually, when they grow old enough to buy a computer, most will use some sort of AV. 

 

Potential targets will go down as AV becomes increasingly as sophisticated. This means more will be needed to create malware, for less of a reward, only to be patched up a week later by an AV update.

 

That is, unless you're a government will millions to burn on a worm such as stuxnet.


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:15 AM

The rise of the so-called "digital natives" is not going to make malware disappear.  There will always be an exploit, garunteed.  While younger generations may have grown up around computers and smart phones, I don't believe this makes them any better equipped to deal with malware than the last generation (so many people think their kids are computer geniuses just because they can navigate the control panel, lol), and in fact, their familiarity may give them a false sense of security.  Lots of people are walking around with infected smart phones and don't even know it.  In addition, no AV or security policy is bullet proof.  Equation?  More police (savvy citizens) + alarm system = less crime?  FALSE.


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 10:27 AM

Agreed.  We are always one step behind the bad guys.  We have to react to their new ways to attack machines.  Unless Windows and other OS's tighten up to the point that nothing can be installed we will always have malware and ransonware and virus'.  Even if installations require user agreement, most people just click OK because they were in the middle of something and don't read the pop up dialogue box.  Bad guys will always try to extort money through any means they can.


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Posted 18 May 2013 - 04:49 AM

 

 from here http://www.thenetworkadministrator.com/interviewwithavirusmaker.htm 

 

*edited to add link. ~ Queen-Evie*

 

Doug:  “I think I’m going to begin with the most asked question a network administrator gets; Why? Why do people write viruses?”

           Bob:      “That’s a question I think about the most every time someone complains to me about getting a virus, or when I’m forced to stay late at night at work and removed viruses from my computers. I think in my case it had to do with self-esteem. You have to understand that back then I was a different person. I was a Sci-Fi freak, I attended Star Trek conventions, was generally predisposed with being a nerd. And I was quick good at it too." 

Doug:  “What a minute! You’re still a Star Trek freak.”

Bob:    "Yes Doug, but I don’t wear the ears anymore.”

Doug:  “But you still own them, right?”

Bob:    “But I don’t wear them. There is a difference.”

Doug:  “Okay, but you would if your wife would let you.”

Bob:    “Anyways…”

Doug:  “Sorry. Go ahead?”

Bob:    “Writing a computer virus gave me a since of power. It was like casting a spell across the world and everyone that came close to it was affected by my power. People that feel powerless sometimes do very destructive things. It's a helpless feeling to not have any control in your life. Creating viruses gave me something that I had control over, at a time in my life when I felt powerless."

Doug:  "So you think that all the viruses being made are from people that feel powerless?"

Bob:    "No, not all. I was just speaking for myself. It's easy to see a pattern in what a virus is suppose to do. Vanity viruses are just that; viruses that say "Look at me. I can make you react to my powers." Very seldom do you see a virus intent to destroy. With as much terrorist activity as there is, you would think that the Internet would be teaming with seek and destroy viruses, but that's not what we are seeing at all. Today's viruses are either out to annoy or retrieve data. I think a virus combing the Internet for data is more frightening than viruses that crash hard drives. And where only talking about known viruses. What about viruses that don't make themselves known? What are they doing?"

Doug:   “You told me once that a virus is a hate crime against stupid people.”

[Bob, laughed]

Bob:      “It is. Most people that contract a computer virus are multiple offenders. They see an e-mail. They don’t know who it is from. They know that if they open it there is a possibility that it may be a virus. And not only is the temptation too much for them to bare and they open it, but they also open the attachment. I’m not defending virus makers, but you have to admit that most people that contract a virus do it to themselves. That’s part of the beauty of it.”

Doug:    “What do you mean?”

Bob:      “The best viruses aren’t the ones that infest a protected system. Anyone can write a virus to do that. The best viruses are the ones that called, “Missionary Viruses”.  These are the viruses that are propagated by stupidity. It either arrives in a mail box warning of a virus and telling the person to pass this warning to a friend, or a virus that comes in as spam and tricks the users into clicking on the attachment. The attachment then harvests the persons contact list and moves on to everyone that person knows. And if their friends are as stupid as they are, which is often the case, the cycle continues. That’s why I say viruses are nothing more than a hate crime against stupid people. .bat, .exe, .pif, are the executable extensions for the naive.”


Edited by Queen-Evie, 18 May 2013 - 09:54 AM.


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Posted 24 May 2014 - 01:02 PM

Did you say little to no effort have you ever tried create software in c# or python ext ext and then to be able to make it actually good .






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