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How many of you don't use real-time antivirus software and are vocal about it?


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Poll: How many of you don't use real-time antivirus software and are vocal about it? (18 member(s) have cast votes)

Do you use a real-time antivirus software?

  1. Yes (14 votes [77.78%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 77.78%

  2. No (4 votes [22.22%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

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#1 Alvas Rawuther

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 01:52 AM

Was just wondering how many people like me exist. So....how many of you prefer not to use any real-time antivirus software in spite of knowing the risks? 

 

And I'm talking about real-time, not on-demand(which scans files when you want it to - like MBAM free, which I use myself).


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 02:52 AM

While everyone is entitled (not) to run whatever program they want on their computer, I really want to add a word of caution here.

Not having any form of real-time protection is putting the safety and security of your computer on the line. Prevention is very important, and a safe surfing behavior, being prudent when opening mail, not clicking unknown links are all good ways to avoid getting infected. However malware is distributed using a variety of methods. Think for example about zero-day exploits for widely used applications like Java or Adobe Reader (not to mention Windows itself).
Most security products these days have one form or another of heuristic/behavioral detection which will alert you when malware is attempting to infect your computer this way (of course this may differ from product to product). If you have no real-time protection running the first sign of infection may be the ransom screen that tells you your computer is locked and you need to pay to unlock it. :whistle:

Again, its everyone's right to decide whether or not to take the risk, but personally I prefer to err on the side of caution.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 12:53 PM

If I might add, being vocal about undertaking risky online behavior, and computer use, is one thing. Encouraging others to follow said behavior cannot be condoned or endorsed by Bleeping Computer.

Bleeping Computer is in the business of helping others rid themselves of malware. Plus advocating safe computer use and online activity. Forgoing the use of an active or real time anti-virus is at it's core the antithesis of what Bleeping Computer stands for.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:52 PM

Also agree  with the above about a Windows machine and want to add that MBAM is NOT an Antivirus but an Antimalware tool.

 

Malwarebytes Anti-Malware is not meant to be a replacement for antivirus software. Malwarebytes Anti-Malware is a complementary but essential program which detects and removes zero-day malware and "Malware in the Wild". This includes malicious programs and files, such as virus droppers, worms, trojans, rootkits, dialers, spyware, and rogue applications that many antivirus programs do not detect or cannot fully remove. That being said, there are many infections that Malwarebytes Anti-Malware does not detect or remove which any antivirus software will, such as file infectors. It is important to note that Malwarebytes Anti-Malware works well and should run alongside antivirus software without conflicts. In some rare instances, exclusions may need to be set for your specific antivirus product to achieve the best possible system performance.

 

http://helpdesk.malwarebytes.org/entries/20818081-Does-Malwarebytes-Anti-Malware-replace-antivirus-software-

 

 

Why You Need An Antivirus on Windows, No Matter How Careful You Are

 

 


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 07:16 PM

While I would never pretend to be in the same league as Elise, Animal, or boopme, I would agree with their statements. I would also ask... Why would you want to run your computer that way ?


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 11:22 AM

While everyone is entitled (not) to run whatever program they want on their computer, I really want to add a word of caution here.

Not having any form of real-time protection is putting the safety and security of your computer on the line. Prevention is very important, and a safe surfing behavior, being prudent when opening mail, not clicking unknown links are all good ways to avoid getting infected. However malware is distributed using a variety of methods. Think for example about zero-day exploits for widely used applications like Java or Adobe Reader (not to mention Windows itself).
Most security products these days have one form or another of heuristic/behavioral detection which will alert you when malware is attempting to infect your computer this way (of course this may differ from product to product). If you have no real-time protection running the first sign of infection may be the ransom screen that tells you your computer is locked and you need to pay to unlock it. :whistle:

Again, its everyone's right to decide whether or not to take the risk, but personally I prefer to err on the side of caution.

 

I'm aware of all the risks there are. But I still prefer not using an antivirus software. It's just that for the kind of guy I am, an antivirus seems unnecessary to me. I mainly use Windows only for gaming and casual web browsing, all the important stuff - banking, shopping, etc. go on Linux, again no antivirus needed there. Still, I perform an online weekly/biweekly scan by ESET to make sure nothing's creepy going on, on my Windows installation - but even if there is, it won't cause me much damage since there's no sensitive stuff.

 

I'll rehash my view one more time:-

They slow down my computer - now don't tell me they don't, every anti-virus software does, some to a great extent and some quite a bit. And I haven't got a single malware/virus infection in about more than the past 7-8 months. I don't feel the need. Besides, I have backups of every important thing on my computer. And I can afford to format my PC or take some efforts to clean my computer if it gets infected(which it doesn't usually). But I cannot, just cannot afford a slow PC. wink.gif

 

If I might add, being vocal about undertaking risky online behavior, and computer use, is one thing. Encouraging others to follow said behavior cannot be condoned or endorsed by Bleeping Computer.

Bleeping Computer is in the business of helping others rid themselves of malware. Plus advocating safe computer use and online activity. Forgoing the use of an active or real time anti-virus is at it's core the antithesis of what Bleeping Computer stands for.

 

I'm not an employee of Bleeping Computer. So me encouraging or endorsing view is not equal to BC doing it. It's a free world - you can have your view, I can have mine. I'm not forcing anybody. I'm just expressing my opinion, and what can be wrong with expressing one's opinion freely?

 

Read above if you'd like to understand fully what I mean.

 

Also agree  with the above about a Windows machine and want to add that MBAM is NOT an Antivirus but an Antimalware tool.

 

Malwarebytes Anti-Malware is not meant to be a replacement for antivirus software. Malwarebytes Anti-Malware is a complementary but essential program which detects and removes zero-day malware and "Malware in the Wild". This includes malicious programs and files, such as virus droppers, worms, trojans, rootkits, dialers, spyware, and rogue applications that many antivirus programs do not detect or cannot fully remove. That being said, there are many infections that Malwarebytes Anti-Malware does not detect or remove which any antivirus software will, such as file infectors. It is important to note that Malwarebytes Anti-Malware works well and should run alongside antivirus software without conflicts. In some rare instances, exclusions may need to be set for your specific antivirus product to achieve the best possible system performance.

 

http://helpdesk.malwarebytes.org/entries/20818081-Does-Malwarebytes-Anti-Malware-replace-antivirus-software-

 

 

Why You Need An Antivirus on Windows, No Matter How Careful You Are

 

I know. I mentioned it because there are people who consider MBAM antivirus, not because I do. It's just that I keep MBAM installed, just in case. And I also perform online scans every week or two. It seems enough for me.

 

Read above if you'd like to understand fully what I mean.

 

While I would never pretend to be in the same league as Elise, Animal, or boopme, I would agree with their statements. I would also ask... Why would you want to run your computer that way ?

 

Antivirus software, more specifically, real-time antivirus software slows down your computer, every anti-virus does, at least a bit. Or they can't function - they need memory, CPU power,etc. And I don't like that. I like as less software as possible running in real time, if you know what I mean.

 

Read above if you'd like to understand fully what I mean.

 

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 12:10 PM

it won't cause me much damage

 

It can cause damage to other people.


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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:26 PM


If I might add, being vocal about undertaking risky online behavior, and computer use, is one thing. Encouraging others to follow said behavior cannot be condoned or endorsed by Bleeping Computer.

Bleeping Computer is in the business of helping others rid themselves of malware. Plus advocating safe computer use and online activity. Forgoing the use of an active or real time anti-virus is at it's core the antithesis of what Bleeping Computer stands for.

 
I'm not an employee of Bleeping Computer. So me encouraging or endorsing view is not equal to BC doing it. It's a free world - you can have your view, I can have mine. I'm not forcing anybody. I'm just expressing my opinion, and what can be wrong with expressing one's opinion freely?
 
Read above if you'd like to understand fully what I mean.


Yes this is very accurate you are not an employee nor representative of Bleeping Computer. You do however take a position that Bleeping Computer does not agree with. We are fully within our rights to state we do not condone the practice you mention. You are free to state your opinion. By allowing it to remain on Bleeping Computer's pages means that we are not denying your right to state you opinion. You are not forcing anyone, you are correct. Not stating dissenting opinion and our position is irresponsible as a security and malware assistance website. Silence on the matter would imply concurrence with your opinion.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 04:47 AM

 

If I might add, being vocal about undertaking risky online behavior, and computer use, is one thing. Encouraging others to follow said behavior cannot be condoned or endorsed by Bleeping Computer.

Bleeping Computer is in the business of helping others rid themselves of malware. Plus advocating safe computer use and online activity. Forgoing the use of an active or real time anti-virus is at it's core the antithesis of what Bleeping Computer stands for.

 
I'm not an employee of Bleeping Computer. So me encouraging or endorsing view is not equal to BC doing it. It's a free world - you can have your view, I can have mine. I'm not forcing anybody. I'm just expressing my opinion, and what can be wrong with expressing one's opinion freely?
 
Read above if you'd like to understand fully what I mean.

 

Yes this is very accurate you are not an employee nor representative of Bleeping Computer. You do however take a position that Bleeping Computer does not agree with. We are fully within our rights to state we do not condone the practice you mention. You are free to state your opinion. By allowing it to remain on Bleeping Computer's pages means that we are not denying your right to state you opinion. You are not forcing anyone, you are correct. Not stating dissenting opinion and our position is irresponsible as a security and malware assistance website. Silence on the matter would imply concurrence with your opinion.

 

I should agree with that on you. Good Day, then! :)


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