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Unbuntu 12.04.2 LTS & Windows 7 _Can I run both?


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#1 Rekhillbill

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 03:18 PM

Hello,

 

I have a Toshiba laptop running Windows 7.  If I want to run both the Windows 7 & Linux, will it (the Linux Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS) install alongside the Windows 7 and thus provide an option in the BCD for the Linux OS?

 

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 04:14 PM

Hello Rekhillbill

 

This document should help you

 

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 04:34 PM

seedy21,

 

Thanks, I am going to visit the link.

 

& Thanks for your comment, too, about Mac OS with Windows 7 in a dual boot.

 

My objective is to keep Windows 7 but have either a Linux or Max OS because judging from the number of post on this website either OS (Mac or Linux) would be more robust in not being “infected” with all sorts of viruses, malware, etc.. I would appreciate your comment on that issue, too?

 

Thanks again for the link

 

Best,

Bill



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Posted 23 March 2013 - 06:31 AM

Hi Rekhillbill

 

With Linux you don't even have to install in onto your Hard Drive. If your machine supports booting up from USB you can install Ubuntu onto a USB stick and run it from there so doesn't affect the Windows Machine. Then you can have it in emergencies where your Windows Machine does not start up.

 

In todays world Anti-virus Software also make CD's that you can boot up from and run Virus Scans from anyways.

 

Here are the Links if you are interested.

 

Install Ubuntu on USB Stick

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick

 

Kaspersky Rescue Disk

https://support.kaspersky.com/4131

 

AVG Rescue Cd

http://www.avg.com/gb-en/avg-rescue-cd

 

Dr.Web® LiveCD

http://www.freedrweb.com/livecd/?lng=en

 

Regarding installing Mac OSX on your computer. The answer is NO. Apple doesn't allow this even though it can be possible using the same Hardware as Apple machines but lets not go down that road.

 

 

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 06:50 AM

I downloaded Ubuntu 12.04.2-deskop-amd64

 

I downloaded & used Unetbootin-windows-583 to make the bootable USB.

 

When the Ubuntu loaded, after the reboot, it did not give me the option of “trying Ubuntu”?

 

It went right into the “install” options, which I  assume was to install on my hard drive.

 

My understanding is that I can run Ubuntu 12.04.2 from the USB drive to give it a try.  But, I don’t know why it (Ubuntu) is not offering me that option.

 

Does anyone have a suggestion?

 

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 11:28 AM

Hello Rekhillbill

 

For that you will need to use this software

 

http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.3.1.exe

 

 

It has something called Persistence where you can run from the Pen and save applications like you can on your Hard Drive.


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 01:04 PM

I downloaded the Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.3.1.exe & set the Persistence file size to the maximum.

 

I finished creating a USB using an Ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso file

 

I rebooted and immediately the Ubuntu Installer Main Menu opened.

 

After going through the routing of picking the keyboard, language, etc., I came to a selection..."Load Installer Components form CD.

 

This of course "failed" since there was no CD in the drive.

 

I tried the Ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso with the same results, i.e., the Ubuntu Installer Main Menu opens.

 

I can find no option on the Installer Main Menu to run a trial version on an USB, as the following links suggest:

 

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/try-ubuntu-before-you-install

 

I wonder if there is a "special *.ISO file with the trial option on it?

 

Don't know what to do next ?

 

Thanks,

Bill

 

 

 

 



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Posted 24 March 2013 - 02:37 PM

HI

 

There shouldn't be

 

 

You should get a screen like this.

 

http://cdn.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/image49.png

 

Then you select Try Ubuntu.


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:09 PM

Hi, seedy21

 

Yes.  BUT, that screen does not come up...

 

I go straight into the Ubuntu Installer Main Menu?

 

This is happening for both *.ISO.

 

How do I find that "welcome" screen?

 

Thanks,

Bill



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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:33 PM

HI

 

 

I would try downloading Ubuntu 12.04. This is what i used it on and it seems to have worked fine.

 

 

http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=lts


Edited by seedy21, 24 March 2013 - 03:34 PM.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:53 PM

A few months back I did a persistent install of 12.10. Disappointed...like you,

it went to screen offering to install or try Live...I click the X to close that and get another

window that asks if I am sure I want to stop the install....I click yes and then it goes thru a series of

black screens and a couple of screens with a couple lines of data then...bingo...the l2.10 desktop!

 

I've made several of these persistent installs using 10.04 and they act nothing like the 12.10. They boot

in less than a minute and work perfectly...no complaints. Don't know who or what to blame for

the weirdness of this later release and I haven't tried to find any info on it. 13.04 will be released next

month and I will give it a go...no hurry.


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 05:58 PM

buddy215 & seedy21

 

I writing this in the Firefox browser that came with the desktop stuff in the *.ISO that you suggested that I try. 

 

Obviously, its working great!

 

I wonder if the two other *.ISO I tried, both amd64s, could be an issue?  The USB was formated Fat32 with the maximum size of persistent selected.

 

My wirless was found and installed with no issues.

 

Also, I am able to type this with out every word being underlined in red as a miss-spelling.  This was happening in Windows 7

 

I seem to remember seeing an editor offered by Bleepingcomputer.com to help with communication in the forums?

 

I am happy that I am "finally" getting a "feel" for Unbunto.

 

Thanks to both for your help & comments

 

Best,

Bill



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Posted 25 March 2013 - 04:39 PM

Glad we could Help Rekhillbill :)


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Posted 26 March 2013 - 04:43 PM

buddy215 & seedy21

 

More good news, I've got Unbuntu 12.10 amd64.iso running on the hard drive in a "dual boot" with Windows 7

 

I first used the Windows "Disk Management" with "Shrink Volume" and then the following to burn the *. iso to a DVD:

 

http://www.freeisoburner.com/

 

The Try Unbuntu & Install Unbuntu options came up.  After a short trial run, I decided to give it a go by selecting the first option on the install menu, which was to install along side the Windows 7 with a dual boot.

 

I, also, selected the two options of having updates & third party drivers downloaded at the same time as the install.

 

It installed without an issue, including the updates, the driver for my HP printer, my D-Link wireless & the Thunderbird Mail program got itself going almost without input from me!

 

I have never experienced Unbuntu or any OS of this type before, but I am very impressed!

 

In fact, I am probably going to use it in lieu of the Windows 7!

 

My only questions now is DO I HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANY Viruses & other Malware?

 

Is there any suggestion you guys or anyone else who happens to read this thread might have in reguards to downloading anti virus or anti malware software?

 

Thanks Again.

 

Best,

Bill



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Posted 26 March 2013 - 05:14 PM

Ubuntu 12.10 allows websites to track you to place ads. You can stop that in settings or

there is another option...up to you to decide and here is a link with info on the tracking and options

to stop it. How to Remove Amazon Ads from Ubuntu 12.10

 

You may have missed these links that I posted for you here #10.

Good info on security.

Post #5--Basic Security

 

Security Fix - Avoid Windows Malware: Bank on a Live CD


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