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#1 maxell505

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:20 PM

Hi. I don't know if this topic is in the correct section of the Bleeping Computer forums or not but I had a few questions about an upgrade to Windows 8 on my Windows XP Desktop Computer. Here are the specs of this computer: 

System Model: Dell Dimension DM051

Processor: Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.00 GHz

2.99 GHz, 2.50 GB of RAM

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack 3 (32 bit)

BIOS: Pheonix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A05

 

It is a 32 Bit Operating System and I want to convert it to a 64 Bit operating system. I know you cant just convert it with any software or anything. Is there any hardware I can purchase such as a new motherboard or a new processor. If I upgrade the motherboard to a new motherboard off of Newegg.com or some other website, will I have to upgrade the processor too? What exacctly do i have to purchase for this computer for it to become a 64 bit operating system. What are some good websites to purchase parts for this computer? Please ask me if I am missing something important that you need to know. Thank you.


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:45 PM

The first thing to understand is that You can not pop any motherboards from anybody but Dell into that computer. Dell motherboards are not standard in connectors or the layout of the motherboard.

 

Go Into the BIOS. Press F2 when the Dell logo appears  and go to the CPU section and post what CPU you have.

 

Overall Once you start changing Motherboard, CPU and Memory and Operating System you might as well buy new.

 

And no benefit with  a 64bit OS with only 2.5Gb memory either.

 

What is the real model? Dimension 2400, 3000, 4600 etc. Dell Dimension DM051 is not the common name.

 

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Edit: Moved to a More Appropriate forum. From Windows XP.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:49 PM

I have a Dell Dimension 5150. It came with 512 mb of RAM but I upgraded it to 2.5 GB of RAM. I want to change it to a 64 bit. Here is the processor information you asked for. 

Processor Type: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 3.00GHz

Processor Clock Speed: 3.0GHz

Processor Bus Speed: 800MHz

Processor L2 Cache- 2 MB

Processor ID- 0F43

Multiple Core Capable- No

Hyperthreading Capable- Yes

64-Bit Technology- Yes (Intel EM64T)



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:11 PM

According to what You have posted, "64-Bit Technology- Yes (Intel EM64T)"  You are good to go as far as 64Bit.

 

Just be sure You understand that you will not be able to do an upgrade and have any programs that are installed work. You can use a upgrade version as long as it will accept your old Operating System for that purpose. It will still do a Clean Install.

 

So I suggest backing up anything you would hate to lose.

 

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:43 PM

You may want to read the article below.

 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2010064/upgrading-an-impossibly-old-system-to-windows-8.html


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:03 PM

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/upgrade-to-windows-8

Upgrade to Windows 8
Before upgrading to Windows 8, we recommend that you run the Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant. It scans your current PC to see if it is ready for Windows 8 and then provides a compatibility report and optional steps for you to buy, download, and install Windows 8.    Download upgrade Assistant


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 09:03 PM

According to what You have posted, "64-Bit Technology- Yes (Intel EM64T)"  You are good to go as far as 64Bit.

 

Just be sure You understand that you will not be able to do an upgrade and have any programs that are installed work. You can use a upgrade version as long as it will accept your old Operating System for that purpose. It will still do a Clean Install.

 

So I suggest backing up anything you would hate to lose.

 

Good Luck

Roger

ok so I can upgrade to 64 bit. Now do i have to upgrade my motherboard. Can you please send me a link of the motherboard i should get for my specific computer. So if I put a 64 bit motherboard in my system(before upgrading to windows 8, will windows xp still boot or will no operating system boot? 



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 09:41 PM

HI

I suggest You read the article Killerx525 found. Good Find too.

 

I would suggest Windows 7 not Windows 8.

 

You can't upgrade a Dell with any generic Motherboards!

Only Dell Motherboards and they have to fit that case and connectors.

 

Once You change a Motherboard to a different Motherboard You can pretty much expect the windows to not run.

 

Use it as it is or replace it. IT appears to be 64Bit ready.

 

Why the rush to 64Bit? It will use up more of the memory you have. It won't have any real benefits on Your system.

For example 32Bit Windows 7 needs less memory than 64Bit Windows 7.

 

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:32 PM

I love Windows 7! I just want to upgrade to Windows 8 on that computer. I want to make the motherboard a 64 bit motherboard and I will upgrade the RAM too. Please can you send me a link to the motherboard I need to buy. Thank You.



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Posted 24 February 2013 - 12:14 AM

I don't know if you are trolling or not.

 

There is no such thing as a "64 bit motherboard".  The CPU is the determining factor.  You have a 64bit CPU. You can run a 64bit OS.

 

The problem is you have an old system.  There might be a problem  trying to run WIN8 due to compatibility, hence the suggestion to run the WIN8 upgrade assistant.

 

You cannot throw any motherboard in your Dell.  It is not a strictly ATX spec case, so no motherboard, except for your current motherboard, or an exact replacement can be expected to work. 


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:07 PM

I don't know if you are trolling or not.

 

There is no such thing as a "64 bit motherboard".  The CPU is the determining factor.  You have a 64bit CPU. You can run a 64bit OS.

 

The problem is you have an old system.  There might be a problem  trying to run WIN8 due to compatibility, hence the suggestion to run the WIN8 upgrade assistant.

 

You cannot throw any motherboard in your Dell.  It is not a strictly ATX spec case, so no motherboard, except for your current motherboard, or an exact replacement can be expected to work. 

See I always thought that the motherboard was 64 bit or 32 bit. I am not a troller. I am new to this kind of stuff but i have some background knowledge on it. If my CPU is 64 bit compatible, then why do I have Windows XP 32 Bit. Are you saying that I can get Windows 8 64 bit but there would be some compatibility issues with it. Ok I will run the assistant right now and post the results I get.



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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:57 PM

The following is the Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant Report that I got when I ran it. I want to know if i am good to go to get Windows 8 64 bit for my computer.

 

Windows 8 Upgrade
Assistant Report

Computer name:


ZAFARBUKHARI


Operating system:


Microsoft
Windows XP Home Edition


Manufacturer:


Dell
Inc.


Model:


Dell
DM051


CPU:


Intel®
Pentium® 4 CPU 3.00GHz


Memory:


2.5



For you to review



 


Install
an app to play DVDs


You
may need to install an app to play DVDs in Windows 8.


More info


 


Secure
Boot isn't compatible with your PC


Your
PC's firmware doesn't support Secure Boot so you won't be able to use it in
Windows 8.


More info


 


Your
screen resolution isn't compatible with snap


If
it's possible, change your screen resolution to at least 1366 x 768 to snap
apps.


More info


 


Microsoft
Interactive Training


 


Not
compatible


 


RADEON
X300 SE 128MB HyperMemory Secondary


ATI
Technologies Inc.


 


Not
compatible


 


ATI
Control Panel


 


Go to the app
website for help


 


Corel
Photo Album 6


Corel,
Inc., Version 6.33


 


Paid
update available


 


Dell
CinePlayer


Dell,
Version 3.0


 


Go to the app website for help


 


Intel®
Network Configuration Services


 


Go to the app
website for help


 


Intel®
PROSet for Wired Connections


Dell,
Version 9.20.0000


 


Go to the app
website for help


 


Internet
Explorer (Enable DEP)


 


Update
available


 


McAfee
SpamKiller 7.0


 


Go
to the app website for help


 


Microsoft
.NET Framework 1.1


 


Reinstall
it in Windows 8


 


Microsoft
SQL Server (2008 and 2008 R2)


 


Solution available


 


Microsoft
SQL Server 2005


 


Solution available


 


Microsoft
SQL Server 2008 Browser


Microsoft
Corporation, Version 10.1.2531.0


 


Solution available


 


Microsoft
SQL Server Setup Support Files (English)


Microsoft
Corporation, Version 9.00.5000.00


 


Solution available


 


Microsoft
SQL Server VSS Writer


Microsoft
Corporation, Version 10.1.2531.0


 


Paid update
available


 


Roxio
MyDVD LE


Roxio,
Version 6.1.6


 


Go to the app website
for help


 


Windows
Internet Explorer 8


Microsoft
Corporation, Version 20090308.140743


 


Update
available


 


Windows
Messenger 5.1


 


Go to the app
website for help



Compatible



 


7-Zip
9.20


 


Adobe
AIR


Adobe
Systems Incorporated


 


Adobe
Flash Player 11 ActiveX


Adobe
Systems Incorporated


 


Adobe
Flash Player 11 Plugin


Adobe
Systems Incorporated


 


Adobe
Reader X (10.1.6)


Adobe
Systems Incorporated


 


Adobe
Shockwave Player 11.6


Adobe
Systems, Inc.


 


CCleaner


Piriform


 


DivX
Setup


DivX,
LLC


 


Garmin
WebUpdater


Garmin
Ltd or its subsidiaries


 


Microsoft
.NET Framework 1.1


 


Microsoft
.NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
.NET Framework 3.0 Service Pack 2


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
.NET Framework 3.5 SP1


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
.NET Framework 4 Client Profile


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
.NET Framework 4 Extended


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
Fix it Center


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
Help Viewer 1.0


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
Office Click-to-Run 2010


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
Office Home and Student 2010 - English


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
Plus! Photo Story 2 LE


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
Silverlight


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
Silverlight 3 SDK


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
SQL Server 2008 Native Client


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
SQL Server Compact 3.5 SP2 ENU


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
SQL Server Database Publishing Wizard 1.4


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
Sync Framework SDK v1.0 SP1


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
Sync Framework Services v1.0 SP1 (x86)


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
Team Foundation Server 2010 Object Model - ENU


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Microsoft
Word 2010


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Mozilla
Firefox 4.0.1 (x86 en-US)


Mozilla


 


Network
Magic


Cisco
Systems, Inc.


 


ooVoo


ooVoo
LLC.


 


OpenOffice.org
3.3


OpenOffice.org


 


QuickTime


Apple
Inc.


 


RealPlayer


RealNetworks


 


Revo
Uninstaller 1.94


VS
Revo Group


 


Roxio
DLA


Roxio


 


Roxio
RecordNow Audio


Roxio


 


Roxio
RecordNow Copy


Roxio


 


Roxio
RecordNow Data


Roxio


 


Shockwave
Director 10.4


 


Sony
Picture Utility


Sony
Corporation


 


Web
Deployment Tool


Microsoft
Corporation


 


Windows
Media Player 11


 


WordPerfect
Office 12


Corel
Corporation


 


HID-compliant
mouse


Microsoft


 


HP
Officejet 4300 series


HP


 


Intel®
PRO/100 VE Network Connection


Intel


 


RADEON
X300 SE 128MB HyperMemory


ATI
Technologies Inc.


 


SigmaTel
High Definition Audio CODEC


SigmaTel



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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:59 PM

When I think about it I do not believe there are drivers for your video for windows 8, I just checked and didn't see anything newer than Windows 7 Drivers.

 

Why do you have Windows XP 32Bit, Because At that time 99%+ windows were 32Bit. The 64Bit XP never really caught on.

64Bit windows didn't really start to catch on until Windows Vista.

 

IS Your Display a widescreen type?

 

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:41 PM

I suggest avoiding windows 8 due to drivers and stick with windows 7.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:44 PM

OK. Let's drop the idea of installing Windows 8 and just go for Windows 7. How do I go about doing this? Do I buy a new Windows 7 installation disc and install it? Please be kind enough to show me each step in detail. When I do so, will I be able to upgrade my RAM? How high would I be able to go with the RAM in my PC? Thanks.






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