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#1 mades

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:53 PM

Ok, so here goes sad.png

 

My motherboard that I have is H61M-USB3-B3

And I have a desktop with Windows 7

 

So... I bought 2 new ram sticks from kingston via ncix.

 

The rams I bought are KVR1333D3S8N9/2G

(2 gigs each for a total of 4 gigs)

 

My old ram (which worked fine btw is also 2 gigs, but kingston don't sell them anymore)

KVR1333D3N9/2G

 

Lo and behold I get a bsod error. Yes, the rams are correctly inserted. It tells me different bsods (wtf?) when I initially boot and reboot several times.

 

Then I re-insert the OLD ram, it gives me the same bsod.

 

So, I reboot go into the BIOS. I was distracted by my roommate obviously! I change the first boot up to cd rom, I save the config. Then I reboot and nothing. It loads 5 seconds and then reboots etc. etc.

 

So... how do I get it to actually reboot

AND then reinstall Windows since it does not boot the dvd? sad.png

 

Also, should I use the NEW rams or the OLD ram?

 

Edit: Moved topic from Windows 7 to the more appropriate forum. ~ Animal



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:28 AM

Take the ram out, and reset the CMOS (theres usually a jumper if not, just remove the CMOS battery, the circular watch battery on the motherboard for 1 minute) then try inserting the old ram in, and see if you can get it to boot from the hard disc, and see what happens.


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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:44 AM

Tomorrow I will definitely try this out (it's past midnite here).

 

Now, I i have to figure out if I should place the rams back in. *ponders*



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:56 AM


 


 

 

Now, I i have to figure out if I should place the rams back in. *ponders*

 

put the old ram in untill you get computer to  work agin, and they try the new ram


Edited by caperjac, 19 February 2013 - 07:57 AM.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:28 PM

Take the ram out, and reset the CMOS (theres usually a jumper if not, just remove the CMOS battery, the circular watch battery on the motherboard for 1 minute) then try inserting the old ram in, and see if you can get it to boot from the hard disc, and see what happens.

Thank you for your reply. I have done as you have said. My pc now boots
perfectly fine. I had no idea about how to reset this. Thank you!

 

 

 



put the old ram in untill you get computer to  work agin, and they try the new ram

 

Well, I have both rams in now. It works fine. I reinstalled Windows.

 

 

 

Here is the reason why is bsoded:

This is the second time that I have added fonts on my computer, and this is the second time that by changing either hardware OR installed software that the installation of fonts has caused corruption on my HDD. When Windows would try repairing the damage being caused, it kept repeating that the fonts was causing some form of corruption.

 

I mean, let's face it, taking out ram and replacing it with other CORRECT ram (according to both Kingston AND Gigabytes) should not cause a bsod by itself! Ok, maybe one at worst, maybe... but continual bsods??? Unless I'm completely wrong here! If I am, please correct me, by all means :)



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:25 PM

this is windows were talking about, arguably the only virus out there with documentation. The problem often lies when you mix and match ram (like voltage and timings) and windows doesn't know what to do with it. I can't say as Ive ever had the problem with it you were having, never had to reinstall windows after a ram upgrade, but Ive never mixed and matched timings and voltages.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 07:50 PM

Well both set of rams, from what I can tell, were the same except that the lone one was a 1R I believe, while the pair were 2R. Aside from that, I do believe that everything else was the same. I am positive it has to do with the change of rams PLUS the fonts that corrupted the system. I recall it said that the fonts were corrupting the system volume. Wtheck?



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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:19 PM

what do you mean by fonts? and by 1 R and 2 R you mean 1 gig and 2 gig right? often, even with the same brand of ram, the larger the module the slower the timings. Youve got to really check.  Though in this case, I believe your right theyre the exact same thing (literally, same thing) 


Edited by the_patriot11, 20 February 2013 - 08:22 PM.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 08:47 PM

It's exactly what I mean. A font like Helvetica. I can't recall the others. So I installed Helvetica and others as well. They caused my pc to become unstable. And removing the ram screwed up everything, it was the last straw! Of course, it's not as if I saw the instability before it crashed. It was one of those upcoming bsods that you don't see coming.

 

No, I am not talking about gigs. ALL of them are 2 gigs. I don't know what it means the 1R or 2R. According to another site:

"1Rx8 has the memory on one side only. 2Rx8 is a two-sided memory stick." I don't know if this is true.

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/275964-30-mixing-1rx8-2rx8-sticks-1rx8-2rx8-mean

 

I checked, and yes you are correct. The ones I bought ARE smaller. I didn't know that made a difference. Thank you for informing me smile.png


Edited by mades, 20 February 2013 - 08:56 PM.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:25 PM

oh ok. Ya, you got the terminology right, I just havent heard anyone use it in awhile so it slipped my mind. Its intersting certain fonts cause issues, I don't know what to tell you about that.


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Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:38 PM

Me neither man. I don't understand how fonts can cause such damage. Stupid Mircosoft lol. I thought they were suppose to make their products more stable, not less.



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Posted 21 February 2013 - 07:19 AM

where did you get the fonts from


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Posted 21 February 2013 - 09:23 AM

Online. I can't remember where exactly. Some fonts from a popular website, but I cannot remember which one though.

 

 

EDIT: or maybe even through p2p?


Edited by mades, 21 February 2013 - 02:14 PM.


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:29 PM

If you downloaded them, theres always the possibility of malware.


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:31 PM

How could malware be undetected that easily by an antivirus and an antispyware? Without mentioning Threatfire. Also, I have winpatrol monitoring for changes.


Edited by mades, 22 February 2013 - 01:31 PM.





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