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#1 woodsman345

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 01:34 PM

Hey all,

 

Ordered a dv6t-7300 HP laptop with the i7 3740qm (2.7 GHz) processor and not a gamer but want the most horsepower I can get for fast virus scans etc. I have an Intel 520 SSD in another machine and it seems to work well.

I am going to put an SSD into this. Probably 2 SSD's just for the fun of it.  Video card is a GeForce 650m. 

If I want speed I set the raid up 1 way and if I want a clone for backup I set it up another way...correct ?

What would be the fastest most relible SSD's in the 120gb range. That seems to be all I need.

The intel 520 seems great but I am not sure how the reliability and performance compares to others and maybe someone can fill me in...thanks !

 



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Posted 15 February 2013 - 04:41 PM

Your laptop only has 1 hard drive bay, so you can't do RAID or have the function to do RAID. If you wanted speed then it would require a minimum of 2 drives in RAID0 and for backup, it would need 2 drives minimum in RAID1 but remember your laptop can do RAID or add a second drive. If you want the fastest and reliable SSD then the Samsung 840 Pro 256GB


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 07:25 PM

This has 2 hard drive bays. Thanks for the info on the SSD.


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Posted 15 February 2013 - 10:20 PM

The read/write performance of the 120G Intel 520 is about the same as the 256 Samsung 840 according to the paperwork I see which might not mean much in the real world, I don't know. Out of curiosity what would be the advantage, if any, of 2 Intel 520's 120 G set up RAID 0 over a single 128 or 256?  Hypothetically?  Not that I would go with Intel but just curios what actually happens when you set them up to go fast Raid 0 in basic terms. ??  I notice the performance specs for the 128 Samsung are down quite a bit from the 256 on the write if i am not mistaken so I will rule that one out. 

The Samsung 256 looks great but I don't think I want to pay for 2 of them when I only need 70G or so.

I could swing 2  Intel 520's 120G's.  So far my 520 has worked well in what I have been using. Maybe I lucked out, I don't know. 

I want to play around and see how fast I can get the new one to go with that processor and then maybe setup in raid 1 if I think my luck might run out after some time.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:04 AM

I may be screwed I was under the impression the whole time this laptop had 2 hard drive bays....the sales person knew that was what I wanted and it may be just for the dv7....dang...Thanks for pointing that out and making me go back and check...I would need to get a dv7 then.

 

EDIT  Ok I cancelled the order in favor of a DV7... I  apologize for my stupidity.

 

So....I am back in business again shortly :-)      I am sure there are more mistakes to be made through the learning curve!!

 

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 06:13 PM

Which DV7 model do you plan to get?


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Posted 16 February 2013 - 09:15 PM

many HP laptops especially in the DV 7 series do have multiple hard drive bays. However, most do not have a built in RAID controller on the motherboard though, I would go into the BIOS and check to see if it does support RAID (should be under storage) 


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Posted 17 February 2013 - 05:49 AM

dv7t-7300      I will check the RAID setup when it arrives.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 11:07 PM

Killerx you were right about that 840 Pro...this new notebook runs good with the 256GB. 

Let me know what you think. Thanks.

 

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 01:00 AM

WOW, that's really fast and luckily the laptop has SATA3 which allows the SSD to potentially perform at it's peak performance.

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 09:54 AM

I have the extra HD bay as I said but there was no hardware for it and I was able to find it online. I guess I will set up the HD that came with the machine as a backup. According to what I have read HP does not support RAID or recommend it for several reasons. However I notice this, below, when I scanned with HWINFO64. What would be holding me back from setting up in RAID ?  Bios?  It is very limited in what can be manipulated I notice.  I do not need RAID but it would be interesting to see what would happen. Probably nothing good LOL

 

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 11:25 AM

Just keep the 2nd hard drive bay as storage.


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Posted 02 March 2013 - 12:31 PM

That would be the best thing for me to do. 

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 12:31 PM

KillerX check this comparison out between a 520 Intel vs a Samsung 840 Pro in a 2 year old HP notebook. First one is the 520. Same everthing. I cloned the 840 from the Intel.

 

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Posted 13 March 2013 - 02:47 PM

The difference is not really much for day to day activities which rely more on 4k random read and write speeds(26.85 vs 23.22 and 51.6 vs 48.29) and not sequential reads and writes

The only time you prolly used the seq transfer speeds was when you copied/cloned the old drive and even then you are limited by the slowest drive






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