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#1 henrymhong

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 03:05 AM

I'm looking to buy a graphics card for my desktop that was custom built. It wasn't built with a card so I want to install one now. It's specs are:

 

Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)

Intel® Core™ i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.1GHz

Ram: 4 GB

DirectX 11

 

It's some sort of ASUS. I want to get a card in the price range of $100-$200 that could run WoW, LoL, BF3, Skyrim, etc. It doesn't have to be ultra settings, but high preferably. I don't know whats compatible and what's not. I was looking at the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 Ti 2GB 128-bit GDDR5. I don't know if mine is compatible or not so I was wondering if anyone could help me figure it out. Thanks!


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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130841

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130840


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 03:42 AM

When purchasing a new gpu for your rig there are a few things to consider,

First, do you have the socket for it? The gpu you mentioned, as many do these days, requires a pci express x16 3.0 socket.

 

Second, do you have the room? Some gpu's are longer than others. Check the dimensions on the specs for your potential new gpu and then measure the space inside your rig from the pci i/o on the back of the case to the start of the drive bay cage or whatever obstruction is inline with the pci i/o port on the back of the case. You will probably need some "extra" space as well for power cables etc so allow for those as well. The one you mentioned earlier seems to have little room requirements and should fit in most modern atx cases but also note that this card, like many today takes up 2 slots so allow for that as well..

 

Third, do you have the power? Check the specs on your potential new gpu and see what it requires to operate. Using the gpu you mentioned we can see that it requires a "400 watt or better" power supply to operate. Also check the connection type. In this case the gpu requires 1 "6 pin" connector. Some require 2 6 pin connectors, some require 2 "8 pin" connectors etc... Make sure you have the proper connectors and output to feed your new gpu.

 

Those are the main points I start from when selecting a new gpu. Most modern gpus from both Nvidia and AMD can run most games and applications. The best resource for determining if you need something "above the norm" I would say check the system requirements for your most graphic intensive app or game, and use the "recomended specs" rather than the "minimum requirements" to gauge your needs.


Edited by zedsed420, 10 February 2013 - 03:44 AM.

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Tygon black tubing,  all Bitspower fittings and clamps, 2 Samsung 1T spinpoint F1's 

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 04:53 AM

...... Ok wow umm how do i know what a pci i have? Should I take a picture of inside the box and post it?



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 05:04 AM

Do you know the make/model of your motherboard? If you look on the board itself, somewhere around the cpu or ram bank you should see it in large print.


Asus Crosshair III  Motherboard, AMD PhenomII x4 965 custom watercooled XSPC Raystorm copper block,  8g Mushkin Blackline
2 XFX Radeon 4890's in Crossfire mode custom watercooled full copper EK blocks,  XSPC rs360 triple 120 radiator 
850w Antec full modular 80plus certified,  NZXT Switch Black case  Custom Watercooled Laing DDC w/ XSPC pumptop res

Tygon black tubing,  all Bitspower fittings and clamps, 2 Samsung 1T spinpoint F1's 

Windows 7 Professional x64 dual boot Ubuntu 12.10


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 05:26 AM

ASUS P7H55-M LX PCle2.0 X16 Direct X10 Support

That's all on the board



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:33 AM

You can basically use any graphics card that uses the PCI-E interface since your motherboard has PCI-E X16 slot. Now, can you take a clear shot of the power supply label and also take a overall view of the internals?


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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 10 February 2013 - 06:36 PM

 http://www.asus.com/Motherboard/P7H55M_LX/  This is your board, the specs show that it does have a pci-e x16 slot.


Asus Crosshair III  Motherboard, AMD PhenomII x4 965 custom watercooled XSPC Raystorm copper block,  8g Mushkin Blackline
2 XFX Radeon 4890's in Crossfire mode custom watercooled full copper EK blocks,  XSPC rs360 triple 120 radiator 
850w Antec full modular 80plus certified,  NZXT Switch Black case  Custom Watercooled Laing DDC w/ XSPC pumptop res

Tygon black tubing,  all Bitspower fittings and clamps, 2 Samsung 1T spinpoint F1's 

Windows 7 Professional x64 dual boot Ubuntu 12.10


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:45 PM

Ok heres the pictures. Sorry for the late response!

 

http://postimage.org/gallery/23ck7gxo/6a71d51a/



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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:30 PM

You only have a 350W power supply, you will need to upgrade the power supply to something like this to run the 650ti.


Edited by killerx525, 11 February 2013 - 12:02 AM.

>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Games: APB: Reloaded, Hours played: 3100+  System2: Late 2011 Macbook Pro 15inch   OFw63FY.png


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:57 AM

Ok. So does the 650 Ti work though with my system?

 

And if so which one should i get the first or second link?


Edited by henrymhong, 11 February 2013 - 01:36 AM.


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:03 AM

It will work as far as the socket will accept it but you don't have enough power to run it. From the spec sheet, 400W or greater power supply with 20 amps minimum on the +12V rail is required to run it. The power supply you currently have is rated at 350 watts. You will need to purchase a 400 watt or better power supply in addition to the card you have chosen in order for the system to function.


Asus Crosshair III  Motherboard, AMD PhenomII x4 965 custom watercooled XSPC Raystorm copper block,  8g Mushkin Blackline
2 XFX Radeon 4890's in Crossfire mode custom watercooled full copper EK blocks,  XSPC rs360 triple 120 radiator 
850w Antec full modular 80plus certified,  NZXT Switch Black case  Custom Watercooled Laing DDC w/ XSPC pumptop res

Tygon black tubing,  all Bitspower fittings and clamps, 2 Samsung 1T spinpoint F1's 

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:36 AM

The first card because of the higher clock speed which generally means higher FPS but remember you have to also purchase that power supply to power the card.


>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:09 AM

Ok so how well they run my games?


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:23 AM

So

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130841

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

and stuff should run smooth?


Edited by henrymhong, 11 February 2013 - 04:32 AM.


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:35 PM

Define "run smooth."  At what settings are you going to be running these games?  By the way, the XFX Core Edition FX-785A-ZNL4 Radeon HD 7850 runs a bit faster than a GTX 650 Ti for roughly the same price.  It also has a mail-in rebate and two game coupons.


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