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Gaming CPU - 4 or 6 cores?


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#1 SirMaximusOwnage

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:29 AM

As it says in the title, I am deciding on a CPU for a gaming rig (That I am building from scratch.).

The big question is... Do I grab myself a decent quad, or a decent 6-core? The top factor is obviously saving cash and getting the best bang for buck, however...

I am aware that games now can take advantage of 6 cores in some cases. Games like Farcry 3 and others, if I am correct. With Intel's hyper-threading, this helps even more. And considering the 6 core CPU I'm looking at, the 3770k, is priced about $200 more than the 3570k, it might even be worth it. That is, if the price of 6 cores when they become more common is around the same price as quality quad-cores are now. Then it would be cheaper to future-proof now for $200, than upgrade later for $300, yes? (Edit: I realize I haven't really gotten any names of 6 cores I'm interested in, as I am not sure I want to pay the price. However, it's still generally $200 more. But you probably already knew that.)

But the most important factor is getting the most out of my gaming. I want to run the top max settings while pulling the most FPS, so I need a CPU that can really match my GPU in power. Take note that this includes force-boosting graphics via Nvidia and including mods. I realize that the CPU decides more about physics and object/computing base than graphics, but I know it helps.

Feel free to recommend other CPU's if you want, but getting other, more experienced, opinions, is what I'm looking for.


(As a side note, I've heard of motherboard's that have 2 sockets for 2 CPU's. How exactly does that work compared to having just one CPU? Does it combine the cores and threads, or is it separate? And would I really be able to benefit from such a motherboard? I'm guessing it's mainly a board for servers, though.)

Edit: I mostly use tomshardware.com for my information, browsing a lot of the many charts they have, comparing. Which reminds me: I'm also looking at the 2700k. The 3550 doesn't seem any different than the 3570, while being locked and only about $20 cheaper.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:31 AM

A 3570 would be more then enough as reviews have shown that there is no FPS increase in most games when a 3770K is used and it will not bottleneck a graphics card(s). Dual socket motherboards are just basically server stuff and it will not benefit you in games, so don't worry about that. The 3550 is a fine CPU to get if your trying to lower down the cost.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:10 PM

Dual socket motherboards are indeed made for servers, and the like, and chances are your games wouldnt even know what to do with them, not alone standard windows, so I wouldnt waste my money there. Im not to up on intel processors, but from what I have seen a 3550 or 3570 should do what you need it to do right now without even breaking a sweat. However, with that being said, if you have the money, a 3770K would be a good investment just from the standpoint of future proofing your system. If moneys a restraint, and you havent ordered the motherboard yet, it wouldnt hurt to check out AMDs new FM2 socket and CPU choices. Just a thought.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:16 PM

Is there some way to bench mark something before actually buying it? Say, pick a game, pick the settings you want to use, and the hardware you have, and get an estimated amount of FPS?

Do you think I would be saving money by getting a 6 core now, or would I be wasting it because I could already run things at max settings with high framerates, and thus can just upgrade cheaper, later?

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:13 PM

It's best to read graphics card reviews to see how the games you might or will play will perform and that should give you a impression of the performance plus the CPU doesn't really have much to do with the FPS in games as most games are GPU bound.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:53 PM

well killer, your right to a degree. Graphics card is an important choice, but having two low of a CPU can affect FPS as well. In any case, all 3 of the CPUs mentioned above will do fine.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:30 PM

Ah forgot about that.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

It sounds like, from your opinions as well as reviews I've seen online, the CPU's I listed above will do fine. The only question left is: is future-proofing worth the price-tag right now, or should I just upgrade with a new CPU at a later date?

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:51 PM

Thats something only you can decide, you have a better idea of your financials then I do. I tend to always go for overkill, personally, when building a system for me, when I can afford it that is. But, if I cant afford it sometimes the best option is to go with the kill rather then the overkill, if you get my drift.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:04 PM

Intel CPUs designation as "K" or k will have a open multiplier meaning you can overclock The cpus without the k can be cheaper if your on a budget. I don't do Intel side but AMD but I understand Intel.

What I have on my rig is a 6 core AMD processor ADM FX-6100 and a lot of people say that gaming doesn't go beyond quad core yet but a 6 core is fine for me. I just think of personal preference


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Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:35 PM

Well, the question isn't finance, honestly. I have the money. It's just new to me. Let me try to put it another way.

If there was a, say $300 card I'm looking at, that's quad-core, versus a 6-core that's about $500, would the extra $200 NOW be worth it, because 6-cores will be around $200-300 in the future anyways? Or will they drop even lower in price? (Or is there a chance it might be a long time, if at all, before it drops below $400?)

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:46 PM

Im sure they will, but if your planning on upgrading anyway, lets look at it now, your paying $200 for a quad core now. Plus, another 2-300 for a six core later on. add that up, and your spending between 4-500 dollars either way you go. If your planning on upgrading to a six core later on anyway, I would just save myself the hastle and spend the money up front and get the six core.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:52 PM

I suppose it does depend on which CPU I'm looking to get, then. I'll probably choose not to upgrade just yet, unless I feel I need the extra power, as I'm sure that once 6-cores are down to $200-300, there will be better ones than what is currently out on the market. But we'll see.

Anyways, thanks for the help, people. :thumbsup:

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:38 PM

If your referring to Intel's 6 core processor chances are that it will never go down to the price of a quad core, it would usually stay at similar price or go EOL.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:53 PM

Wait, why wouldn't it go down in price? Just to be clear, I wasn't talking about that particular CPU that's already out, I'm talking about future 6-cores. Because as technology improves, they release the older stuff for cheaper. At least, that's how it's worked in the past. So I'm just confused why you say it won't go down in price, unless you were talking about the ones that are out right now.




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