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New build - installing Windows 8 Pro to SSD


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#1 Albini's cat

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 10:20 PM



Hi there,

I hope this is the right place to put this...

I have Vista 64-bit but am upgrading my PC with new MoBo/CPU/RAM. I have downloaded the upgrade version of Windows 8 Pro from MS but would like to know what the best way to do this is to get Win 8 on the new build. Ideally I'd like to install Win 8 onto a new SSD (Crucial M4 128GB). Could I do this from the DVD .ISO Windows 8 created?

Would I need to install Win 8 on the Vista HDD as it's an upgrade version? If I moved the HDD to the new MoBo would this boot Windows 8?

I'm fairly technically savvy, but have never done this before, so any help would be much appreciated.

I don't have the original Vista install disc as it's OEM installed on the PC.


Thanks.


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Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:45 PM

You would need to perform a clean install on a SSD because SSD is very sensitive to read and writes.

Yes you can do it from the ISO image. Burn the ISO onto a DVD. See the second link

http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows-8/ss/windows-8-clean-install-part-1.html or http://pcsupport.about.com/od/windows-8/a/clean-install-windows-8-upgrade.htm

I would finishing upgrading the current hardware before updating because if you brought OEM disk it will lock into your previous motherboard.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 12:08 AM

Thanks for those.

Will I be able to install Windows 8 on a new PC (on to a SSD) as it's the upgrade version?

If that's not possible, and I install it on the existing PC which has Vista-64 will I be able to move the HDD to the new PC? I'm under the impression Windows (whichever version) is locked to the Motherboard, so if I change MoBo/CPU then I'm worried Windows 8 won't boot on the new build.


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Posted 27 January 2013 - 12:20 AM

Yes you can
"Can I clean install Windows 8 using a Windows 8 Upgrade download or DVD?"

Yes, you absolutely can clean install Windows 8 using an upgrade-licensed copy of Windows 8 or Windows 8 Pro. This includes both the Windows 8 Pro Upgrade download from Microsoft and the Windows 8 upgrade discs you can buy online and from retail stores.

If you have, or are planning to purchase, the Windows 8 Pro Upgrade download from Microsoft, see How To Clean Install Windows 8 Pro Upgrade for a walkthrough on how to properly prepare that download so you can use it for a clean install.

If you have a Windows 8 upgrade version in DVD format that you purchased from a retail store or online, there's nothing to prepare as long as you have an optical drive. If you need that disc on a flash drive, see How To Install Windows 8 From a USB Device for help doing that. It's not as easy as copying the files to the flash drive so be sure to look at the tutorial before getting started.

Important: You can only install Windows 8 (clean install or upgrade install) using an upgrade license if you currently have a copy of Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows Vista, or Windows XP installed on the computer. True, the clean install process involves removing that operating system, but it still has to be there when the Windows 8 setup process begins. Upgrade licenses are less expensive than full licenses because you're getting a break as a previous Windows customer.

If you install windows 8 on currrent hardware than transfer it to the newer hardware it will not boot because it needs the current motherboard to be present so It wont work. Sorry about that writters block

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 07:54 AM


Ok, thanks for that. Interesting.

So is there any way to move/install Windows 8 (upgrade) to a new PC if the components have changed?

Would sysPrep be the way to go, or could I clone the Hard Drive in some way?


Thanks.


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Posted 27 January 2013 - 04:26 PM

You stated that you want to install windows 8 as a clean install as you have a upgrade media that will work on a SSD and your new mob/CPU will work

OEM license have a one time use you are tied to that motherboard. Only extreme measures can untied your key to it.

You have a bad motherboard and you found the same motherboard or model number is sightly newer.


Now If you have a Full Version you can do what you want.

It will create more problems for you to move a hard drive with windows 8 to a new computer essential because you getting a new motherboard and cpu All the registry keys paths would be incorrect and drivers would be mess up

Since you stated that you want to use a SSD as your boot device You would have to perform a clean install not cloning a SSD.

A SSD is flash memory basically now if you clone a SSD you would have bad results. Alignment issues. Flash memory is not the same as a traditional hard drive.

I would recommend to you that complete the upgrade of various parts and then intall windows 8 on your new SSD.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 05:52 PM

It will create more problems for you to move a hard drive with windows 8 to a new computer... All the registry keys paths would be incorrect and drivers would be mess up

A SSD is flash memory basically now if you clone a SSD you would have bad results. Alignment issues. Flash memory is not the same as a traditional hard drive.


Ok, thanks for that detail.

I would recommend to you that complete the upgrade of various parts and then intall windows 8 on your new SSD.


Ok, thanks. However, if the Vista OEM is tied to the original Motherboard wouldn't that mean that I couldn't use the "For distribution only with a PC" Vista DVD to install it onto a new build PC?

(I'm presuming "For distribution only with a PC" is the same as OEM).


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Posted 27 January 2013 - 06:36 PM

It would have trouble activating. One key per OS. OEM simple means that it came preeinstall on the computer and if you reinstall with the new hardware using OEM it will break the Terms of Service.

You would have to buy another Windows key for Vista 64 OEM but computers come with Windows 8 now. I doubt that you will find a Windows Vista

You have one key now since you brought Windows 8 update ISO and product key.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 07:14 PM

It would have trouble activating. One key per OS. OEM simple means that it came preeinstall on the computer and if you reinstall with the new hardware using OEM it will break the Terms of Service.

You would have to buy another Windows key for Vista 64 OEM but computers come with Windows 8 now. I doubt that you will find a Windows Vista

You have one key now since you brought Windows 8 update ISO and product key.


Ok, so would I need to activate the copy of Vista at all on the new PC?

If I used the Win 8 Pro Upgrade then wouldn't the activation be for the new (W8) Product key? Wouldn't the new Windows 8 ToS supersede the ones for the Vista OEM?


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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:44 PM

I believe I misunderstood your topic.

You are planning to update your computer with new motherboard/cpu/sdd combo.

So you brought a Windows 8 update with a key.

So when you update your computer with the newer hardware you going to install Windows 8 with a update key.

Performing a clean installation formats the ssd to windows 8 After you installed the O/S it will ask you to activate your new computer will be using your key.

In this case your going to install Windows 8 on your new SSD. Leaving the OEM windows vista on the other hard drive it will be not active.

So this set up:

Primary Hard Drive is SSD windows 8 with activation
Second Hard Drive is old vista 64 which can be reformatted to allow Data Storage

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 04:06 AM

Yes.
OEM Vista. New Hardware. Want to install Upgrade version of Windows 8 Pro on new SSD with new Motherboard.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 11:58 AM

Windows 8 product key will work with your new motherboard with your SSD.

Windows 8 will be only OS on your SDD.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:24 PM

Ok, however that isn't quite what I'm asking.


  • I have Windows Vista OEM installed on a PC where I will be replacing the M/B, CPU & RAM.
  • I have the Windows 8 Pro upgrade version.
  • I want to install Windows 8 on the new PC, on to a new SSD.

So - will I be able to install the Windows 8 upgrade on the new PC build (new M/B, CPU)?

Would I need to install the Vista OEM on to the new build before installing Windows 8?

Will I be able to install the Vista OEM on the new build at all?

Do I need to activate Vista at all on the new PC? Or can I just activate Windows 8 using the Product Key I have?

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:38 PM

So - will I be able to install the Windows 8 upgrade on the new PC build (new M/B, CPU)?

Would I need to install the Vista OEM on to the new build before installing Windows 8?

Will I be able to install the Vista OEM on the new build at all?

Do I need to activate Vista at all on the new PC? Or can I just activate Windows 8 using the Product Key I have?
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I sent you a PM on this with links earlier. You can do a clean install with a WIN8 upgrade disk. Did it one one of mine so I wouldn't look like an idiot working on clients WIN8 systems.

OEM VISTA on a new system......not supposed to, but...... If it is a factory OEM version, likely not.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:43 PM

I sent you a PM on this with links earlier. You can do a clean install with a WIN8 upgrade disk. Did it one one of mine so I wouldn't look like an idiot working on clients WIN8 systems.

OEM VISTA on a new system......not supposed to, but...... If it is a factory OEM version, likely not.


Thanks dpunisher! That's encouraging.





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