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#1 zantaff

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:32 AM

*SOLVED*
In conclusion:

The newer Rosewill units, like the HIVE are made by a good OEM and are of decent quality.
Therefore, the HIVE is a good, budget modular PSU, and is the one I purchased.

Certain Rosewill series (the Stallion, Green) are very low quality and early on that was all Rosewill had.
Added to this fact is that Rosewill is Newegg in disguise. Being a budget brand hasn't helped their reputation either, so they dont have a great image among the tech community.

Obviously there are better PSUs out there. There are vast differences in quality and price of course and a higher end enthusiasts PSU can cost a few hundred dollars.
I'm looking for good quality at a more reasonable price and this is where the Hive series comes into play.




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I've been looking at PSU's and was wondering if anyone had any experience with this PSU.
Is it good for the price? Should I forget about it?

 KenTek  Ktps775m 
http://bit.ly/WjW9si


I'm looking for a modular PSU in the sub $90 range with ≥650 watts. 

I'm a college student & first time builder, so I'm not looking for anything ridiculous, just quality. 

Thanks. 

Edited by zantaff, 06 January 2013 - 04:19 AM.


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:04 AM

Modular is good, but it worries me that the seller included no brand information. Some are much more reliable than others.

Asking for a PSU under $90 that is modular and rated a minimum of 650w is a bit of a stretch. Your best best is to look long and hard for sale deals on TigerDirect, Newegg, Amazon, etc.

Here is one I found for $90 on the mark. OCZ modular 700w.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341018
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:20 AM

Modular is good, but it worries me that the seller included no brand information. Some are much more reliable than others.



Thanks for the suggestion!
I've been looking at this one if the one I linked to turns out to be a dud.

I had messaged the seller and he replied pretty quickly saying it is a KenTek Ktps775m.

Edited by zantaff, 05 January 2013 - 06:22 AM.


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:45 AM

Yeah, I've never even heard of that brand in the realm of brands I know not to buy.

I did a little background research.

This brand has a particular history of:
1) Opened PSUs (QA/QI sticker cut/removed)
2) Blowing capacitors/complete failure within 1 month
3) Connectors not as described/insufficient connectors for stated wattage
4) Loud
5) Not verifiable as SLI capable with nVidia

Avoid it like the plague.

As a side note, don't be afraid to spend a little extra on a decent power supply. There are plenty of horror stories to go around, and most of them have merit to them. The PSU is per dollar the most important thing you will buy. If I were to put that PSU in my system, I can almost guarantee having to replace the entire system.

Edited by MDTechService, 05 January 2013 - 06:53 AM.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 07:41 AM

This is a really good example of a PSU company/rebadger that makes you worry.

No actual professional reviews. Most of the "reviews" I found were from Amazon (I plugged it in and it works! YAY!), or some advertising sites masquerading as review sites.
No UL listing on most specs (and differing specs on different sites for the same PSU)
100,000 hour MTBF......except for the fan? WTF?
Low amperage on the 12V+ rails for PSUs of that range. Modern PSUs can output almost all of their output on the 12V rails, which is what you need on new systems.

If 650 Watts will do, you can get in on some XFX (Seasonic OEM) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207022 and Corsair TX650M action http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139031 .

If $90 is a hard ceiling, then your choices are limited in the 700+ watt modular range. Power supplies are just one thing I don't cheap out on. Chasing down problems causes by flakey PSUs is really frustrating.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:04 PM

If $90 is a hard ceiling, then your choices are limited in the 700+ watt modular range. Power supplies are just one thing I don't cheap out on. Chasing down problems causes by flakey PSUs is really frustrating.



As for 650w, do I really need it?
I used the eXtreme calculator and got 650w min.

Here's what I'm planning.
I've already purchased my i5-3570K & ASUS P8Z77-V PRO
I am probably going to OC the i5 from 34000 to 44000. (Air cooled)
Use 4 sticks of RAM
SSD (boot)
2 ~ 7200rpm HDDs
2 ~ 120mm fans
2 ~ 80mm fans

Uncertain what GPU I'm going to get, but have been looking at <$200 cards:
Radeon HD 7850 2 GB
Radeon HD 7770
GeForce GTX 650 Ti
I also am looking for the possibly be able to SLI/Crossfire in the future.

As for what I do on my computer, it's mostly gaming, but I do need to use design software like Adobe, CAD & Revit products.


Appreciate it.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 08:39 PM

Good deal or bad deal?
THIS

I'm kinda wary because of all the missing cables. Will getting them drive the price way up, or is it no worry?

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 09:12 PM

If you plan on overclocking the CPU, I would hunt for something in the 600-650 range, but there's not really a need to go higher.

As for the Thermaltake on eBay:
1) It is used. I almost never buy used PSUs because you never know how they were used, the maintenance on them, etc. It might look and run fine for the first couple weeks, but if it was at full load or overloaded, that can take away from the lifespan of the PSU.

2) The missing cables will run you a bit of extra $$. This isn't an item-specific estimate, but you can expect to sink about $25 into a replacement pack of cables. Individual modular cables will run you $5-10 a piece.
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:14 PM

Something like this would do the trick.

>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:17 PM

Thanks everyone for your input.

The battle has come down to these two:

Rosewill HIVE 650w - $66 (incl tax + free ship)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182132

-OR-

OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W - $71 (incl tax + ship fee)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341016
OR this one, which is $50 total on eBay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OCZ-ModXStream-Pro-OCZ500MXSP-500w-Power-Supply-/221173475702?pt=PCA_UPS&hash=item337ef76976
(is it worth the extra to get it new?)

Edited by zantaff, 05 January 2013 - 10:37 PM.


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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:24 PM

Both power supplies are ok but not the most reliable around.

>Michael 
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Posted 05 January 2013 - 10:53 PM

Both power supplies are ok but not the most reliable around.


What about

XFX Core Edition PRO550W - $76 total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207013

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:15 AM

That is a much better power supply, built by a reputable OEM.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 04:18 AM

*SOLVED*

Thanks to EVERYONE that posted. Even if you don't agree with my decision, everyone's input really was beneficial!


In conclusion: Certain Rosewill series (the Stallion, Green) are very low quality and early on that was all Rosewill had.
Added to this fact is that Rosewill is Newegg in disguise. Being a budget brand hasn't helped their reputation either, so they dont have a great image among the tech community.

The newer units, like the HIVE are made by a good OEM and are of decent quality.
Therefore, the HIVE is a good, budget modular PSU, and is the one I purchased.

Obviously there are better PSUs out there. There are vast differences in quality and price of course and a higher end enthusiasts PSU can cost a few hundred dollars.
I'm looking for good quality at a more reasonable price and this is where the Hive series comes into play.

Edited by zantaff, 06 January 2013 - 04:25 AM.





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