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#1 ekul420

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 04:30 PM

okay so i have all of my parts picked out for my new computer on newegg.. i would order it right this second but basically i just need an experts say on weather or not all of these parts are compatible with each other.. id be really bummed out to order all of these parts and find out one or more parts arent even compatible with one another.. ive built computers before (like the one im using now from 6+ years ago and from comp. repair class) but its been awhile, soooo yes, i need help! my computer knownledge might be old now haha.. here are the list of parts i picked out

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514

CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103996

Video Card - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130625

Memory - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

Hard Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

CD/DVD Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Operating System - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Total = $724.91

it looks good to me but you never know.. help is muuuuuchhh appreciated, im ready to buy this thing! thanks! :)

Edited by ekul420, 18 November 2012 - 04:31 PM.


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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:26 PM

your power supply link opens to neweggs home site, so I cant comment on that, but other then that everything looks like it should work with each other, and from good reputable brands that are both reliable and powerful.

Edited by the_patriot11, 18 November 2012 - 08:26 PM.

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Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit. 

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 10:26 PM

someone on "TomsHardWare" told me a different configuration.. apparently its more powerful but cheaper.. here are all the parts, im trying to buy this thing like right now lol.. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ofdc .... what do you think?

Edited by ekul420, 18 November 2012 - 10:27 PM.


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:34 AM

Processor, its a tossup-Im guessing on tomshardware their a bunch of intel fanboys, but honestly, CPU and motherboard wise, your original configuration is better. I think that AMD CPU you picked out, is better then the i5 they picked. If they had chosen a i7, it may be different but not a i5. As far as the motherboard, ASRock, which is where the price difference is, is an inferior brand to gigabyte. Its not a bad brand, but its not a high performance brand either-and in a performance system, in fact with any system, the two things you should never skimp on, are the power supply and the motherboard-they are the backbone of your system. Gigabyte makes a far superior motherboard then ASRock, even if you do go intel, go with a good gigabyte or ASUS motherboard.

As far as their video card choice-performance wise, I agree, the AMD 7850 is the better card, however, I would recomend getting one from Saphire or ASUS over XFX, Ive had to many problems with XFX cards overheating.

I love their memory choice, huge fan of Patriot memory, love it.

Power supply, goes back to dont skimp on the power supply. the 430 watt PSU their recomending, while of a good brand, is nowhere near powerful enough for a performance system-especially if your ever planning on running multiple video cards. Go with a good solid, 550-600 watt PSU, unless your planning on running dual cards in the future, then go for a 750-850 watt PSU. I normally recomend Coolermaster, Antec, Corsair, or OCZ power supplies.

Anyway, thats my suggestion-ignore their motherboard/CPU suggestions, your current picks will out do them, keep their memory suggestion, use the AMD card except with Saphire instead of XFX, and use a higher powered PSU.

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Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit. 

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:19 AM

now i really dont know what to do.. and yes youre right, they are a bunch of intel freaks there.. ive only ever used AMD before, never intel but i was considering switching over to intel from what they said on tomshardware.. so confused on what to buy now.. what parts would you recommend for a configuration thats around $700? i dont need a very big hard drive considering i have a little 80 gb hard drive and its not even full so a 500gb one would be fine.. heres the link to the PSU i picked out, people at tomshardware said it was too powerful and that i could get a cheaper one.. [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005] <---- ugh the link still goes to newegg.com for some reason.. its the very first PSU on "spotlight" when you click Power Supplies on newegg.com (CORSAIR TX Series CMPSU-650TX 650W Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply)


EDIT.. okay..

Case and CD/DVD Drive (found combo) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1095205

Motherboard - using the one i picked

CPU - using the one i picked

Operating System - using the one i picked

all that seem good? all i need now is a graphics card, memory, hard drive, and power supply correct? i was looking at RAM.. these two kinds seem good, what do you think?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220558

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

Edited by ekul420, 19 November 2012 - 09:07 AM.


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:57 PM

For the memory, I have 16 gigabyte of that patriot gamer series ram you linked-I love it to death, in fact Patriot is pretty much the only brand I use. G Skill is a good brand as well, so youd be ok either way-but the advantage of the patrot gamer series, is that it offers the same specs as the patriot Viper series, with a low profile heatsink, so if you purchased a aftermarket CPU cooler, it would fit over the top of them, while the viper series, and that g.skill, would stand to high for most aftermarket CPU coolers.

As far as AMD vs. Intel, everyone has their preferences. Their both good CPUs, the i7 will outperform the CPU you have chosen, but for a pretty penny-the i5 toms recomended will be on par if not slightly below it in performance. A lot of it is personal preference-I have used intel and AMD, and I personally, much prefer AMD.

PSU, I dont know what toms is telling you, but 430 watts just isnt enough to handle your system, and that high end video card. 500 would be ok, with a solid PSU, but having extra doesnt hurt, that corsair 650 watt PSU is a solid pick. The one thing I have learned in computer building-when on a budget, dont skimp on the motherboard or the power supply unit-the power supply unit, is the backbone of your system, if it can't provide adequate power or fails, it can cause the most damage-and your motherboard, limits what you can upgrade in the future. If you have to cut, use a lower end CPU, less ram, smaller hard drive, etc. as those are all easy to upgrade in the future.

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Primary system: Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3, Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 945, Memory: 16 gigs of Patriot G2 DDR3 1600, Video: AMD Sapphire Nitro R9 380, Storage: 1 WD 500 gig HD, 1 Hitachi 500 gig HD, and Power supply: Coolermaster 750 watt, OS: Windows 10 64 bit. 

Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:53 AM

If this was a gaming system then the AMD CPU would be fine with that 7850. 430W with a 7850 is kinda pushing the boundary and at load, it would be probably be close to it's peak wattage plus that FX-4100 isn't the most efficient CPU around. Patriot makes some nice quality and reliable ram, so does G.Skill which is what i currently using in my own system. ASRock motherboards is more of a budget value type compared to Gigabyte. The beauty of Gigabyte is they provide lots of bells and whistles at a good price point plus they've been in the motherboard business for awhile now and they definitely know how to manufacture motherboards.

Edited by killerx525, 20 November 2012 - 12:56 AM.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:05 PM

i have a new setup.. what do you think about this one?

$219.99 - Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
$79.99 - BIOSTAR TZ77B LGA 1155 Intel Z77 ATX Intel Motherboard
$29.99 - Kingston HyperX XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600MHz RAM
$179.99 - VisionTek Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card (Farcry3+Medal of Honor free)
$34.99 - RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W Modular Power Supply
$79.99 - Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
$21.99 - GIGABYTE GZ-F5HEB Black SECC Steel / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$16.99 - SAMSUNG DVD Burner
$99.99 - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

Total - $763.91

sorry there is no links to newegg, this is from another forum.. after i posted those specs one guy said this...

Would be more concerned about the PSU than the GPU. RAIDMAX is a brand well known for making horrible Power Supplies. Gonna have to get a better quality unit.
Given your budget, recommend this.
Corsair Builder 500W, 80+ Bronze. $60 ($20 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027&Tpk=Corsair%20500w&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=4176827&SID=ehfyjho0x2ml air%20500w

RAM is no good, cant have 1.65v RAM on an Intel system.
Patriot Viper 8GB (2x4GB) 1600Mhz CL9 1.5v. $35 ($10 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220685&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=4176827&SID=1fs8hx3vspn5 6820220685

what do you think? sorry im picky haha

Edited by ekul420, 20 November 2012 - 12:07 PM.


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:41 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL111912&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL111912-_-EMC-111912-Index-_-IntelMotherboards-_-13157293-L0A

$25 extra, but no rebate to hassle with. That being said, I haven't had any extraordinary problems with Biostar boards. Just, if you are going to get a nice CPU, might as well spend a little more and get a friendlier board.

The advice you got was valid. Raidmax make some crap PSUs. Best to stick with RAM that works at 1.5V or under. Patriot is generally good stuff. A 500 watt PSU will be sufficient, easily sufficient.

Some sites/forums like Intel, some like AMD. Personally, the only time I build an AMD system is when I have overriding budget constraints. Great thing about that 3570K is it will hit 4.3-4.5ghz at stock voltage. Something else to contemplate is better cooling. Doesn't have to be expensive, something like a Hyper 212 class cooler works great. Well worth $30.

Whatever you decide, have fun with it.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:11 PM

But if the OP has no intention of overclocking then there isn't a point on spending extra on K CPU.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:50 PM

$20 for the option of going scary fast just by cranking the multiplier.......count me in.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:59 PM

$20 for the option of going scary fast just by cranking the multiplier.......count me in.

Me too but just saying if the OP has any plan to OC then it would be worth it.

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