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installed new motherboard Dell 8300 and not powering up


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#1 donatello

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 07:30 PM

My Dell Dimension 8300 Pentium 4 2.8ghz would start but only enough to get into the bios where I noticed that the hard drive was not recognized. I tried a different hard drive, a known good ribbon cable and still would not recognize HD. Internet searching I found a number of people with similar problems that were resolved with a motherboard replacement which I did. I ordered a refurb.MB off of Ebay: "The XPS GEN-2 motherboard we offer in this listing can replace the Dimension 8300 motherboard with very little effort!" I just had to get a sound card and and a second fan and that was it. Did the install, appeared to go fine. upgraded to a 3.2GHZ (512KB 800MHZ SOCKET478)applied thermal paste to cpu and plugged it in and push the button. The green LED light in the button did not illuminate. I did notice on the MB that a green LED did illuminate and that is it. Any ideas??? Maybe I should try another power supply, although it did work right before I pulled it apart. :angry:

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 09:01 PM

Doublecheck your connector to the power header from the power button on the case. You can short the power pins directly on the board also.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:05 AM

Thanks for responding dpunisher. I followed the power button cable to the motherboard, pulled the connector and inspect the pins and then reconnected. I hooked up the power cord and did notice that the illuminated diode I see is directly in front of this connector. So it does appear that MB is getting power, up to this point.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:58 PM

Motherboard probably doesn't support the new CPU or it needs a bios update. Im leaning toward CPU incompatibility.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 11:40 AM

Motherboard probably doesn't support the new CPU or it needs a bios update. Im leaning toward CPU incompatibility.


If the computer doesn't post after that upgrade, then it is the CPU not being supported. And the bios is locked so you cannot change the frequencies to match if that is the case. Also, if the computer won't even turn on, as in no fans, no drives booting up, no nothing... then I believe you shorted your case pins or some part of the board when doing this.


But about the hard drive not being recognized...
OP, This is a very strange problem and happened to me before with many computers. Usually the SATA cable, sata port on the motherboard, or the SATA power from the PSU has gone bad. It is strange though, because what I did is I usually plugged the drive into a different SATA port on the board, and of course it worked. Then a few days later I plugged it into the port I thought was bad, and it worked. It is very strange, but I believe leaving the pc off for a bit after messing with it may help, and make sure to completely the unplugged.

Another tip is removing the cmos battery and resetting the bios.

Edited by smerffed, 13 November 2012 - 11:45 AM.


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Posted 13 November 2012 - 06:30 PM

If you are using a motherboard that is different than the original...and trying to use the same hard drive to boot...that's asking for disappointment.

The files, activation code, driveers, settings...are all different.

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Edited by hamluis, 13 November 2012 - 06:31 PM.


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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:48 AM

If you are using a motherboard that is different than the original...and trying to use the same hard drive to boot...that's asking for disappointment.

The files, activation code, driveers, settings...are all different.

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This does not matter if its a replacement board and its the same exact one. Which it is a replacement board for that system.
The computer would still post, he would just get a bsod if he used a completely different board.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:18 AM

Dell Dimension 8300 Motherboard, OEM part

XPS Gen2 Board

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 11:15 AM

This does not matter if its a replacement board and its the same exact one. Which it is a replacement board for that system.
The computer would still post, he would just get a bsod if he used a completely different board.





When you take a hdd with a Windows OS installed on it that you have been using on one computer and then install it as the primary hdd in another computer you are asking for major problems. The excerpt below is from a Intel article which describes in detail what happens. The article also mentions a reference to an article by Microsoft, it can be seen here .

"Moving a hard drive with Windows* 2000 or Windows XP* already installed to a new motherboard without reinstalling the operating system is not recommended.

If a hard drive is moved to a new computer, the registry entries and drivers for the mass storage controller hardware on the new motherboard are not installed in Windows for the new computer you may not be able to start Windows. This is documented in Microsoft's knowledge base article. This is true even if you move the hard drive to a motherboard with the same chipset, as different hardware revisions can cause this issue as well.

Additionally, moving a hard drive to a new motherboard may not exhibit any errors until you install new IDE drivers. This is because each chipset uses a different Plug-n-Play (PNP) ID to identify it. If you move your motherboard, your registry will have multiple PNP IDs (for the old hardware as well as the new hardware). If there are multiple entries in the registry, Windows cannot determine which hardware to initialize and therefore fails with a STOP error."

Edited by dc3, 14 November 2012 - 11:21 AM.

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