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#1 cruisn

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 05:43 PM

Hello. I had some questions regarding this desktop and how I am planning to upgrade it.

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Computer specifications:

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=EL1852G-52W-FB-R


Pictures of inside the computer: http://www.geeks.com/largePic_All.asp?InvtId=EL1852G-52W-FB-R&Pic=EL1852G-52W-FB-R-soft.jpg



I would like to be able to run some games(medium settings would be fine), primarily gta iv, saints row 2 and saints row 3.

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Graphics card: I have looked at several topics and due to the slim design of the case, I will have to go with a low profile graphics card.
Two graphics cards I looked at that seemed pretty good for this situation are

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125377

The specs page of this card: http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/amd-radeon-hd-6000/hd-6450/pages/amd-radeon-hd-6450-overview.aspx#3

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121475

The specs page of this card: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-520/specifications


Q1.Would the cards be able to fit into the case? It's hard to tell just from the manufacturer's pics.

Q2. Does anyone have any better suggestions for the graphics card?

Q3. On the specs page of the desktop, it says "PCI expansion cards will require low-profile PCI brackets." Does this bracket come included with most graphic cards? How can you tell?

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Power supply: The current power supply is 220w. The above cards recommend to have 400w and 300w, respectively.


I have a Rosewill RP500-2 500W ATX12V v2.01 power supply from a previous computer (info: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182016 )


Q4. Would this be able to fit into the case?


Q5. If not, would something like this work?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703034

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Case/Tower: Some people have suggested that it might be a good idea to just buy a new tower which could fit a larger card and provide more space. Regarding this, I would prefer to keep the same one I have right now if possible.


thanks for any help. if there's something I missed and should also consider, let me know.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 01:06 AM

Graphics card:
1. The cards linked should be compatiable but i am little concern that the GT520 heatsink is a bit to big.
2. A better card would be this which is faster then the 6450 and the GT520.
3. Most graphics cards don't include a low profile bracket is because of the size of the PCB.

Power Supply:
4. No, that power supply will not fit in your case because of the size.
5. No, that will not fit due to it's size.

Your choice on a graphics card and power supply is quite limited due to the case. Games like GTA IV is pretty demanding for the graphics card and the CPU.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:25 PM

Both card the OP listed are sub 30 watt cards. The E5800 is a 65 watt CPU. Add in another 20 watts for incidentals and you might pull 125 watts total with everything maxxed out. During gaming, you would see nearly a 100 watt pull. Long story short, I would try that stock power supply and see if it works OK. If it doesn't, then you might upgrade to something better. Not a great power supply by any means, but it could/might do the job.

The main problem as pointed out above is room. How much space on that upper 16X slot? You might only be able to fit in a single height card, which would rule out everything that is passively cooled. Remember also that any fan or heatsink is going to be butted up against the case wall so cooling may not be optimum.

Edited by dpunisher, 19 September 2012 - 12:26 PM.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 04:22 PM

The space is a bit limited, but I think that graphics card could still fit. In terms of the cooling, there is a vent on the top of the case as well as on one side (can't see it in the pictures link I posted). So it might work.

But is there power supply that could fit? Many seem to be way too big to be contained in the case.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 04:45 PM

that power supply is design to fit into that case. I dont believe you can replace it with a higher wattage because its a specific type of a power supply.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 06:01 PM

Power supply is a "Flex ATX" for that system I believe.

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