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Old GB965P-DS3-based system upgrades?


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#1 Zelekendel

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 07:16 AM

Hi, I thought that since I'm probably going to have to do some investing in hard drives, I might as well take a look at my system and see what
can be done with a relatively small budget to it.

What I'm running is W7 with:
GB965P-DS3
Core 2 Duo 6400 (old, I know, I've overclocked it a lot, but as the system is unstable even without overclocks, the clock keeps resetting - so it's running stock or maybe even underclocked all the time! For some reason each BSOD seems to do that, so I've finally given up and left it)
A couple of old 7200 RPM HDDs (total capacity c. 500GB)
6GB of pretty fast and decent RAM (to go with the heavy overclock, can't remember the brand)
Radeon 6870 HD


I was thinking of a 120 GB SSD (perhaps an OCZ Agility 3) to improve my load times, as well as a potential CPU upgrade.
I can't remember my MB rev (I'm writing from a library, as I'm suffering from a Trojan attack, and am offline).

But in general, are there any worthy CPU upgrades for that old MB? If not, I might just hold off until I run into real problems, as a MB switch is a more drastic and annoying operation for me. The system has been chugging along with 1 or 2 GPU upgrades since the beginning of 2007 I think.

Do you have any recommendations? I don't have a professional use for the pc, mainly a gaming and internet use, plus a lot of PDF handling.

Thanks!

Edited by Zelekendel, 16 September 2012 - 07:18 AM.


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Posted 16 September 2012 - 07:58 AM

Is this your motherboard? If that is your motherboard, you could upgrade to the newer Wolfdale Core 2 Duo or a Core 2 Quad. The reason you keep losing the Bios settings is because your CMOS battery has ran flat, you have to replace it which should fix the issue. Another thing is don't overclock if you don't have the right cooling as it could cause some issues. A SSD would benefit you greatly, you should get a Intel 330 Series or a Samsung 830 Series SSD as they are a lot more reliable then the OCZ Agility 3.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 16 September 2012 - 09:57 AM

Yes, it is, I just didn't remember to check the revision.
I ran the E6400 severely overclocked for many years (3 at least) with just an aftermarket air cooler. It was like the old Celeron days! So I'd say I've gotten my money's worth with the overclocking, so I will definitely do it again if a certain CPU / GPU has been shown to be tolerant to it (though not so ambitiously perhaps).

Are those CPU upgrades actually cost-effective compared to a new MB and CPU?

For example, what would be the difference between this and the Core 2s? The core 2s seemed more expensive, too.
It might be the case that the best option is just to do the MB and CPU together, which is what I've usually done - I might hold off in that case until I run into actual troubles (haven't yet really).


For the SSD, I was thinking as alternatives these:
SSDNow v+200
Hyperx

I wasn't sure where the Samsungs and Intels rank on the performance level, on a closer look those seemed faster - but that might not have been the case in the real world, just on paper.

I suppose you've convinced me to steer clear of the OCZ now, but those two Kingstons, one cheap and one that seems very solid (no pun intended).
Time is running out in the library (damn trojan!), so I'll have to check back later. Thanks for the help!

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 04:33 PM

If you manage to find a Core 2 Duo or a Core 2 Quad chip at a really low price then go for it. The 1st gen i3 is probably faster then the Core 2 Duo but it all really depends on what you do. Samsung is pretty fast performing SSD in the real world but the Kingsston Hyper X is also fine too.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 09:53 AM

Ok. So, which one of these would you go for:


Crucial 128GB m4 119€
Samsung 128GB 830 118€ (edit: just found them for 99€)
OCZ 120GB SSD, Vertex 3, SATA III 117€ (seems nice?)
Kingston 120GB HyperX 3K 109€
Intel 120GB 330 99€

Price does matter a bit, but obviously not at the expense of any real reliability and speed within this price range.
Sorry that I have to ask a lot of questions, but I don't have a lot of time to do research since I'm at the library...

Couldn't find a Core 2 quad anywhere for a good price, so I might have to do a rain check on the CPU upgrade. As long as Skyrim etc. work fine...
I'll also hunt for that CMOS battery.

Edited by Zelekendel, 17 September 2012 - 09:54 AM.


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Posted 17 September 2012 - 04:30 PM

The Crucual, Samsung, Intel and Kingston SSD are all fine but out of the lot, the Samsung is the fastest out of the pack. A CMOS battery can be easily found, it's a circle battery with the number of CR2032.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 08:24 PM

Got the Samsung and the battery, running smooth now.
Thanks for the assistance.

Couldn't score any cheap C2Quads, so I'll hold off on the upgrade like I said.

Looks like the old dog can't handle the overclocks anymore like she used to, though ,but that's understandable. Maybe I'll at least get nominal clocks back, or a bit more.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:34 AM

Good to hear that everything is going smoothly!

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Games: APB: Reloaded, Hours played: 3100+  System2: Late 2011 Macbook Pro 15inch   OFw63FY.png





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