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Can't restart without wireless router?!


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#1 SmartasaRock

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 07:04 AM

My computer will not start up Windows without having my wireless router plugged in and working. It's been about a month now that it's been doing this. I can't find any reference to anyone else having this problem. Anybody know what's going on? How did it get like this? Did I change some strange setting to make it only start this way?

Edited by hamluis, 25 August 2012 - 03:06 PM.
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:44 AM

hi,never heard of that problem before a wireless router doesn't even have to be connected to any computer to function as a wireless router .
just a guess ,but what happens if you go to device manager and disable the network devices before you shut down,and reboot to check

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 09:28 AM

hi,never heard of that problem before a wireless router doesn't even have to be connected to any computer to function as a wireless router .
just a guess ,but what happens if you go to device manager and disable the network devices before you shut down,and reboot to check


That did it! Thanks! But I wonder why it's like this. It would just tell me that I didn't have a connection and something about a boot device, and wouldn't turn Windows on. I've never had it happen with any computer. And it wasn't happening with this one when I got it. I wish I knew what changed.
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 11:53 AM

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That did it! Thanks! But I wonder why it's like this. It would just tell me that I didn't have a connection and something about a boot device, and wouldn't turn Windows on. I've never had it happen with any computer. And it wasn't happening with this one when I got it. I wish I knew what changed.
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not sure ,did you use your antivirus program to do a full scan of your computer for viruses and malware/spyware

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 06:00 AM

Yeah, I've scanned the system with different programs several times lately. I've got a laptop from this year, everything as far as I know is updated, defragged, cleaned, cleared, and should be like new, but in addition to that weird router quirk, it began running like an old computer a few months ago. Long lulls and "thinking" time when I tell it to do things, long loading time on Internet pages, freezing on any video I try to watch. I don't know. I've got the reverse Midas touch with computers. I've used system restore for this router quirk before thinking to post here. For that and all the other problems, but it didn't do anything either.

Edit: I've never even found any viruses or malware/spyware when I've run those tests. It's the only computer I've ever had that never registered a thing with months of regular use. I know that doesn't necessarily mean I don't have anything and the scans can't detect everything, but I've used several different kinds.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 11:52 AM

for the slowing down of the computer ,lagging and such ,you might want to check with the hard drive manufacture and get there drive utility , they all have one , and do a check of the harddrive

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:43 PM

Is the problem resolved? This is a strange startup issue... On what part of booting to windows would you see the message? Did you try checking your BIOS for any network card function to disable?

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:38 PM

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I thought the problem was resolved but Istarted to get trouble pre-windows again. Icouldn't find the utility thing for my laptop but I became resolved on just living with the lags and fussy startups. Then it gave me a message I wish I'd copied ! I can't remember what it said but it warned I should backup my files(which I've never had the savvy to do) and that I may have to reinstall everything.

Somebody recommended I try ccleaner? I did and I didn't get the warning again, and the system seemed better for a bit. I better explain in two posts.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:48 PM

So the next time I had restart trouble something new was torturing, lol. Now it was stuck in a startup repair "loop". So I used a PS3 browser to look it up. I followed command prompt instructions that were above my head really but they allowed me on windows again. I dreaded restarting for days until a windows update forced me. Then I got stuck in a startup repair "loop"again. I tried to use the registry command prompt instructions again but this time those files weren't to be found and the process couldn't be done. I better do this in three posts maybe. PS3 typing takes a lot longer. I don't want to lose and redo.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:05 PM

So now all I've got this list of options and I tell it to do some kind of full restoration of all defaults and everything save backing up my files in a single folde, it said. I didn't know what else to do. So this process starts and freezes. It didn't want to go. At the end of my rope then, guys. So though I never used recovery disks or had them before this computer even though I put off using them because I'd lose my documents and whatnot, I tried them out. Well they started and went through each disk 1-4 and finished. I thought. Now after that process it won't get back to windows.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:17 PM

Error message now:

"The computer restarted unexpectedly or encountered an unexpected error. Windows installation cannot proceed. To install Windows, click "OK" to restart the computer, then restart installation."

But restart just led me to a half an hour of fussing with the router and it telling me there's no bootable device and to check cable connection and insert boot disk that I don't think I have and then, eventually, it goes to start Windows and I get the same error message I quoted at the beginning of this post. Okay, I'm done. Now, how screwed am I? :(
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:37 PM

Is the problem resolved? This is a strange startup issue... On what part of booting to windows would you see the message? Did you try checking your BIOS for any network card function to disable?

Sorry, didn't address your questions. I am not sure what BIOS even is. I'd see the error message right after my Acer screen with the F2 setup option but before it could even say it was starting Windows.
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 12:02 AM

press F8 quickly after POST utill you see Advance Boot up Options and Select "Last Known Good Configuration" See if that helps you boot up into Windows

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 02:49 AM

press F8 quickly after POST utill you see Advance Boot up Options and Select "Last Known Good Configuration" See if that helps you boot up into Windows


Okay, I got the options to come up, and chose that but then when it tried to start Windows I got that "Setup is starting servic es" screen with that error message"The computer restarted unexpectedly or encountered an unexpected error. Windows installation cannot proceed. To install Windows, click "OK" to restart the computer, and then restart the installation."
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 03:11 PM

I feel like my "special" computer skills have given me too "special" a problem. :cold:
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