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#1 conk

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Posted 11 March 2006 - 07:30 AM

ok number 1:
i am going to buy a new processor to replace my old amd sempron 2600a+ as it is only a 1.6ghz :thumbsup: what i want to know is do i just take my old one out and put the new one in i know how to put them in (using thermal grease and such) just not sure about replacing them, also how do i find out the number of pins in this one to make sure i buy the right type when i get a new one.

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i am going to buy some new ram i am going from 512 ram to 2gb ram how do i make sure i buy the right type that will work with my mobo and processor etc?

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i am also going from 128mb graphics to 256mb do i just take the old card out and put a new one in or do i get rid of the old drivers etc before i replace them.

any help would be appreciated thanks.
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Posted 11 March 2006 - 08:13 AM

If I was doing it,I would go to a store & ask the manager if I could bring in the computer & show it to them & go from there.

I added RAM to mine.
I went to Circiut City & asked the clerk about it.
He went to the shelf & opened up a model like mine & pointed to the slot & said,"Put it there".
I did & it worked.
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Posted 11 March 2006 - 08:13 AM

ok number 1:
i am going to buy a new processor to replace my old amd sempron 2600a+ as it is only a 1.6ghz :thumbsup: what i want to know is do i just take my old one out and put the new one in i know how to put them in (using thermal grease and such) just not sure about replacing them, also how do i find out the number of pins in this one to make sure i buy the right type when i get a new one.

Establishing the amount of pins isn't enough to make sure the processor is compatible. You need to go to the website of the motherboard manufacturer and see which processors are supported. It is also possible that you need to update the BIOS to get support for newer processors.

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i am going to buy some new ram i am going from 512 ram to 2gb ram how do i make sure i buy the right type that will work with my mobo and processor etc?

The motherboard manufacturer often have a Qualified Vendors List (QVL) of supported RAM, which can be found on their website. You can also use something like Crucial Memory Adviser Tool to find compatible RAM.

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i am also going from 128mb graphics to 256mb do i just take the old card out and put a new one in or do i get rid of the old drivers etc before i replace them.

Uninstall the old drivers first, then switch cards and install the new drivers.

When upgrading it is also possible that you need to upgrade the PSU to help it handle the increased load. Especially if you upgrade the processors, RAM or video card.
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Posted 11 March 2006 - 12:07 PM

It's also possible that the BIOS will have to be flashed to support a faster processor. When I built my computer, I read up on it first and found that a lot of people were having to flash the BIOS to support the AMD 3000+ but it wasn't necessary with mine because by the time I got it the BIOS had already been revised. But an older motherboard may have an earlier BIOS version.

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Posted 12 March 2006 - 12:11 AM

Btw your proc is a 754 pin.
if u are considering such an upgrade, why not consider the mainboard. a 939 pin (next amd proc up the echelon) will give you much more scalability, and cache is also better on the chips designed for this board. a 939 pin can house the newer dual core arcitecture and you can also upgrade to an FX series chip. if u stay with 754 pin, you are stuck with sempron, (lower end amd). BTW just because it clocks itself at 1.6ghz, does not mean it runs equivilant to an Intel 1.6 ghz chip! it has the capability to process data at a seemingly faster rate.
i would advise u to upgrade your board before anything, this gives you the scalibility for futurre.
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Posted 12 March 2006 - 03:06 AM

If the computer is still running use Everest Home or Belarc Diagnostic Tool. They will tell you everything you want to know.
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Posted 12 March 2006 - 03:25 AM

ok thanks guys i think i will upgrade my board and processor and do the ram and gfx at a later time, erm another question then lol can i just buy a board with 939pin or do i need to get something to do with compatability or something i know about getting one with agp etc i know all this from when i built the pc that im upgrading and do i just take the board out and put the new one in? also will my ram run on the new board because i know some ram types dont run on certian boards and chips.
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Posted 12 March 2006 - 05:58 AM

well, your sempron 754 pin/board takes DDR memory, as a new 939. yes u are quite rigth about compatibility issues, however, the newer boards have more tolerance than the older boards. saying that, you can check out the manufacturer's site and it will tell you about compatibility with certain brands of ram. bear in mind too, most decent boards have no on-board video, so if you decide to go pci express, you will have to also buy a vid as well as a BOARD/CHIP. so either save up, or stick with an agp card. A8V by Asus is a decent AGP board if u stick to it.
lol, yes u can get away with a board/chip purchase and not have to buy any more hardware.
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Posted 12 March 2006 - 09:37 PM

hello:

also just for info >>> a PCI express video card offers no real world advantage over an AGP card of equal class >>>> but PCI express will and is currently replacing the AGP video card >>>> and if someone desires running an SLI system (two video cards working in tandem) that will automatically go you into the PCI express world

but if I were in your boots

I would get a 939 pin motherboard (asus, abit or MSI) with AGP and get the CPU you have described that will give you a good kick without totally killing the pig >>>(piggy bank)

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Posted 13 March 2006 - 05:30 AM

ok i used belarc and it said this is my motherboard
Board: SiS-741
Serial Number: UY7244410155
Bus Clock: 167 megahertz
BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 07/22/2004


does anyone know the size of this board because ive heard that some cases only take certian sized boards and figured that is this size works ok ill get a better board on the same size.
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Posted 13 March 2006 - 06:37 AM

its not the sixe of your board that counts...............ah......lol.. its the size of your case.sis-741, btw is the chipset on your board, not the name of it. when you boot your computer, it will tell u the name of the board, either a big splash screen, or, where it "counts" the ram (POST) it displays it here too.you can hit "pause/break" key on your kb to freeze the screen so you can fing it. then hit esc key to un pause it.
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Posted 13 March 2006 - 07:11 AM

The SiS-741 appears to be the intergrated video and not your motherboard.
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Posted 13 March 2006 - 07:50 AM

ok its pretty obvious i dont know much about hardware so ive copied and pasted the page from belarc.

Operating System System Model
Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (build 2600) Enclosure Type: Desktop
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
1.67 gigahertz AMD Athlon XP
128 kilobyte primary memory cache
256 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: SiS-741
Serial Number: UY7244410155
Bus Clock: 167 megahertz
BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 07/22/2004
Drives Memory Modules c,d
122.93 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
76.45 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

AOPEN DVD1648/AAP PRO [CD-ROM drive]

Maxtor 6Y120L0 [Hard drive] (122.94 GB) -- drive 0 512 Megabytes Installed Memory

Slot 'A0' has 256 MB
Slot 'A1' has 256 MB
Slot 'A2' is Empty
Slot 'A3' is Empty
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c: (NTFS on drive 0) 122.93 GB 76.45 GB free

Network Drives
None detected
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local user accounts last logon
Ivo 14/03/2006 11:37:38 (admin)
local system accounts
Administrator never (admin)
Guest never
HelpAssistant never
SUPPORT_388945a0 never


Marks a disabled account; Marks a locked account None detected
Controllers Display
Standard floppy disk controller
Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
Secondary IDE Channel [Controller]
SiS 5513 IDE UDMA Controller NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 [Display adapter]
ADI CORP [Monitor] (12.9"vis, s/n 016L00103180, March 1997)
Bus Adapters Multimedia
SiS 7001 PCI to USB Open Host Controller (2x)
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D-Link AirPlus G+ DWL-G520+ Wireless PCI Adapter
primary Auto IP Address: 192.168.1.5 / 24
Gateway: 192.168.1.1
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SiS 900-Based PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
Physical Address: 00:01:6C:3D:80:2C
WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
IP Address: 172.188.100.173 / 32
Physical Address: 00:53:45:00:00:00

Networking Dns Servers: 192.168.1.1
205.188.146.145
DaulCamera
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PS/2 Compatible Mouse
USB Root Hub (3x)
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Posted 10 April 2006 - 03:45 PM

ok sorry to revive a dead topic but can someone tell me what type of ram this motherboard would need thanks

Edited by conk, 10 April 2006 - 03:46 PM.

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Posted 10 April 2006 - 05:49 PM

This is what is in the ad on the link...

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