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#1 coolum

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 02:58 AM

I have had numerous problems the last 3 days with my computer and it's connectvity to the internet. After discusing my problems with many helpfull users, I am still faced with the same prolblems. I have saved all my personal files as well as numerous firewall and antivirus progams to discs. I have also saved my system to backup discs. Finally, I have an external hard drive with everything saved.

I would like to do a full system Recovery but I fear that my problems from right now will be saved on my external hard drive. I have never had to use my external drive for a recovery problem, so I am assuming that the problem I've had is not from that. If I system recover what are all of the needed antispyware programs I should use before starting. I have a HP computer, which does not come with install repair or recovery discs. Only a recover program off START area of computer. Do I reinstall my programs after or before I download anti spyware,etc.?

I already have:

1.Spybot
2.AVG antivirus
3.Sygate firewall
Do I need any others?

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 07:50 AM

I have list a few programs I use. I would install the removal and online scan software now before you need it. I takes minimal disk space and is one less thing to fight with if you become infected. You can also review the Freeware Replacements For Common Commercial Apps for other software you may need or want. Good luck.

Antivirus (Run only one.)
AVG Free Edition Antivirus (I personally use)
Avast Home Edition Antivirus Freeware
AntiVir Personal Edition Classic Freeware
BitDefender 8 Free Edition

Antispyware
Microsoft Defender (2000,and XP only)
Spybot Tutorial
AdAware SE Personal Edition Tutorial
SpyBlaster Tutorial
SpywareGuard Tutorial

Trojan Removal Tool
Ewido Anti-Malware After a 14 day trial it will not scan automaticily(2000, and XP only)(Features)
A Squared Free

Online scans
Trendmicro's Housecall Internet Explorer Only
Trendmicro"s Housecall FoxFire Only
Panda's ActiveScan Internet Explorer Only
F-secure's Virus Scan Internet Explorer Only
SyGate's Trojan scan
eTrust Antivirus Web Scanner Internet Explorer Only

Removal Tools
Kaspersky Removal Tools
AVG Manual Virus Removal tool
MacAfee Stinger Virus Removal Tool
Symantec's Viurs Removal Tools
BitDefender Removal Tools Free

Utility
cCleaner
Everest Home 2.2 (hardware and software information)
Belarc Diagnostic Tool
Memtest86 "A Stand-alone Memory Diagnostic"
MicroSoft's Memory Test
Digtal Dolly (Hard drive utility)
Active@KillDisk-Drive Wipe Utility
BartPEWindows 2000 & XP Only.
Ultimate Boot Disk Utility
www.bootdisk.com
BIOS beep & POST codes
Firewall Security Test
Snap Backup (Backup Utility)
SpeeDefrag 2.1 (Restarts, runs, and shuts down Windows)


Firewalls (Run only one.)
Zone Alarm Free for Personal Use
SyGate Presonal Firewall 5.6 (I personally use)
OutPost Firewall Free
Kerio Free Personal Firewall
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 10:52 AM

Your HP probably has a restore partition if it did not come with restore disks and it is usually accessed before Windows starts.

Disconnect everything except your mouse, keyboard and monitor. Disconnect whatever you connect to the internet with - ie, cable modem, dsl modem, etc.

Disconnect anything that's connected with USB cables including your external drive.

Start boot-up and pay attention to what the screen says.
When it says something like press Del to enter setup do so and see if you have a choice for system restore there.

Do not enter the bios.

If your system did not come from the factory with SP2. once Windows is reinstalled go to the Windows firewall and turn it ON. It was not on by default until SP2.

Once it is on, shut down, reconnect your broadband modem or reestablish your dial-up connection and go directly to windows updates. Set Windows Updates to download and install updates automatically for a time you know your computer will be on and connected to the internet, then download updates immediately. (I hope you have broadband if SP2 isn't already installed because it is a huge download. - you may want to see if one of your friends has SP2 on disk to install it, or, if you do use it before connecting to the internet.)

Then download your AV program unless you have already installed it from disk and update its virus definitions immediately.

With the Windows firewall on and an av program resident and working you will be fairly safe to get everything else you want - a better firewall like Zonealarm, antimalware programs like Adaware, Windows Defender, Spybot, etc,

Then shut down, reattach your peripherals including your external drive and restore your data.

Edited by Enthusiast, 10 March 2006 - 11:03 AM.


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Posted 10 March 2006 - 05:06 PM

How many of the removal tools or antivirus programs do i need? I am aware of the porgrams that have(pick only 1), but I don't know if I need to use all the programs for each problem?

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 06:07 PM

Personally I have all of the removal and online scan tools on my computer. Since each one work in a different way you cannot be sure which one will be the tool yu we need if to get into trouble. They take little space an only require resorces if you are running them. Setting ideal on the computer hurts nothing.
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 07:02 PM

The only thing you need before you reinstall Windows is an antivirus program if possible.

If your reinstallation is not SP2 make sure you turn the Windows firewall on before you connect to the internet.

Once you connect to the internet the first thing to do would be to get all the Windows Updates. When you get to the Windows updates page set it to update your computer automatically and for a time when you know your computer will be on and online. Then manually click to download updates now.

Reboot:

If you haven't installed the av program download it and install it now.

Next, replace the XP firewall with one that gives you both incoming and outgoing protection - the XP firewall only protects against incoming threats.

Then you can get whatever antimalware aps you want.

Here are some that I recommend:

Freeware AntiSpyware and Security Programs

Software firewalls with freeware versions
Free Zone Alarm SE:
http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/cata...g=en&lid=nav_za

use the following to paste in the forum:

http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/cata...g=en&lid=nav_za


Sygate: http://www.sygate.com/

Antivirus programs - freeware (you can only use one resident anti-virus program on your computer. More than one will conflict)

AVG: http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_index.php

Avast Anti-virus freeware
http://www.komando.com/bestshareware.asp


Anti-malware freeware (You can run as many of these as you wish. Generally there is no conflict between these and you should always run several)

Ad-Aware SE Personal is a free version and it can be downloaded from our Mirror Sites in the Download section at Lavasoft website. However, please note that while the free Ad-Aware SE naturally helps you remove all spyware, it does not provide real-time memory scanning; this capability comes with the paid versions.

http://www.lavasoft.com/

Click on Adaware SE Personal in “Products” on the left side of the page

Spybot S&D: http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
Be sure to enable “Teatimer” which gives you realtime protection.


Microsoft Windows Defender
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/s...re/default.mspx
This also provides realtime protection.

SpywareBlaster: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html

Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (Win XP and Win 2000):
http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx

A˛ - Free from http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4281.html . Run it, click Search for Updates, then click Scan.

Here are some tools to put in your Internet Explorer's favorites for future use:

Web based online Antivirus and anti-malware scans: (these can be run regardless of whatever else you are using. You must use Internet Explorer to run these.)

Kaspersky Anti-Virus Web Scanner
http://www.kaspersky.com/service?chapter=161739400#betatest


Panda Activescan
http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/co...n_principal.htm

Trend Micro antivirus and malware scan:
http://housecall-beta.trendmicro.com/en/st...orp.asp?id=scan

Trend Micro antivirus European Edition (supports Mozilla based browsers)
http://uk.trendmicro-europe.com/consumer/h...call_launch.php

Etrust Anti-virus web scanner
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx.

online trojan scans here -
http://scan.sygatetech.com/pretrojanscan.html


Windows Security Trojanscan
http://windowsecurity.com/trojanscan
See instructions for it here:
http://www.windowsecurity.com/trojanscan/trojanscan.asp

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 11:38 PM

There are only a few site that still ofter SyGate Presonal Firewall 5.6. This link contains the notice from Symantic that there will not longer provide support for the freeware verison of the SyGate Presonal Firewall 5.6 as of November 30, 2005. It appears Major Geeks is one of the few sites to still ofter the download.
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Posted 11 March 2006 - 12:37 AM

I have been using the Zonealarm freeware firewall for several years and have had no problems whatsoever with it.

I highly recommend it.

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Posted 11 March 2006 - 12:45 AM

I aplogize. I was not commenting on ZA being good or bad, but just to provide a valid link to the location for the free verison of SyGate Free Personal Firewall.
While I use SyGate, I consider Zone Alarm and excellent program and alway include it when recommending Firewall software. This is the list I always provide.

Firewalls (Run only one.)
Zone Alarm Free for Personal Use
SyGate Presonal Firewall 5.6 (I personally use)
OutPost Firewall Free
Kerio Free Personal Firewall
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Posted 11 March 2006 - 12:51 AM

thanks guys I'll cross my fingers and start to fix my other computer




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