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#1 janefs

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:15 PM

I'm really disgruntled with my BB provider (Telecom Italia) which is over telephone wires from the exchange. I live just over 7kms (5 miles) from the central exchange. Mornings I can get 2Mb/s download, 0.2 Mb/s upload. Afternoons when the students return from school/college then forget it. Bandwidth disappears. Telecom Italia tell me that's all I'll ever get because of our house location. Other providers here are promising 20Mb/s but no new infrastructure (still over the Telecom wires) so I don't believe they can deliver on the promised speeds. I'm already paying for an 'up to 7Mb/s' service which was promised but not delivered.

I know I shouldn't complain because I live in a beautiful part of the Italian countryside, several households I am aware of cannot get BB over ADSL at all and rely on expensive mobile phone G3 networks for internet.

My question for discussion (and I may have posted in the wrong Forum - Moderator please move if need be) is about satellite broadband. Are there any BC members using satellite and what is the experience.


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 12:33 PM

I can tell you this based on how Satellite Broadband works in the USA.

It isn't for gaming. The latency is high since when you click something that has to be sent out to the satellite over the equator, the satellite then has to send that to the earth station which feeds it into the Internet. Then The earth station transmits back to the satellite and then down to you. For downloading service packs and security patches or email that may not matter.

Also the satellite has a finite amount of bandwidth thus you may end up paying for excessive usage. Or they may just throttle speed if you are downloading to much. Or they may just give you a GB per month usage and if you go over that you pay extra. You will have to check with your intended provider.

A heavy rain may kill your internet much like Satellite TV can have rain fade. I had that yesterday the 26th when I went to watch a couple of 1/2 hour shows that were being recorded to the Satellite TV DVR. We had severe thunderstorms at the time.

I hope this helps with some basic information.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 02:58 PM

Thanks for the info. The provider I'm considering does have a fair-usage policy but it seems sufficient for me, but it is something to consider before committing to a contract.

We are in a snow area, so I had already thought about the position of the dish, we would need to keep it clear of snow I am aware.

We're not gamers, so that wouldn't be a problem.

Latency? Well, we have that today...

Good info.

Anybody using in Italy or other Europe countries?

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 03:30 PM

You are so right. Snow building up on the dish will kill the internet so keep it where you can brush the snow off. However as an alternative they sell dish warmers that will let you mount it elsewhere. Out of sight maybe and still not have to worry about snow buildup.

For example I have my Satellite TV dish on the north side of the house set down low so it is more or less invisible. It actually points at the satellites over the top of the roof to the south.
My neighbors is at the top of the roof and really looks ugly sticking up there.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 04:08 PM

You might want to review your options here: http://www.satsig.net/ivsat-europe.htm

Lots of excellent information that's region specific.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 04:42 PM

Hello,

I just got off from using Satellite Internet from Hughesnet. (USA)) Satellite from my experience is horrible I had it for years 6+ Satellite internet is expensive and to me not worth your time but if Its your last resort I would do it.

Typically no ISP has not guarantee service speed that includes Satellite and doesn't provide 99.999 percent reliable more like 80% on sat internet. The reason is too many factors go into a standard installation and service issue like so much megabytes per day

Latency is define by point a to point b and back

Typically you have 1000+ms.

I am recommending that you look for a terrain based ISP because of the latency point to point services on my system I have Wireless modem pointing to a tower 1 mile or less. if you can't find one than satellite is the only option you have

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 07:42 PM

Don't get satellite if you have ANY other choice.

Satellite, when working correctly, is pretty quick at downloading large files. However, most of the current satellite providers (judging in the US only) have caps that are so low that downloading large files regularly is pretty much unusable. Things such as netflix, and youtube will put you over your cap quickly.

Another thing with the latency is you will be looking at around 1,200ms ping times. That means every time you click something, you will have to wait a full second before anything even starts to load. In my experience, a 2mb sat connection with 1,000ms latency loads webpages 3-5x slower then a 512kb/s low-latency connection.

I really would not recommend going with satellite if you can get DSL currently. Even if it's at 2mb vs 20mb.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:57 AM

Thanks all.

Real interesting reading, and also it's a good link to satsig.

My options for land-based ISP are very limited, I'm currently with the national telephone provider but am at the end of range for DSL.

I am going to investigate a dedicated line with the current ISP so I don't suffer the afternoon bandwith drop.

Will post back on success or not with that!

Good weekend, all

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 04:11 PM

Back again. Been doing a lot of reading online, and a lot of discussion with my ISP. My intermittent DNS not resolved issues (under s separate post in this forum) are still regular, and increasingly annoying.

Am getting nowhere with my ISP, and they will not visit my home to resolve..... BAH!

On the satellite investigation, I visited a Country House Hotel 15kms away who have the system I am considering - tooway.net (based in Milan, Italy). I ran speedtest.net and ping at home using my wireless connection (to wired ADSL), and repeated the tests at the Hotel over their wireless connection (to satellite).

Speedtest results were promising averaging 2.2Mbps at home, 5.5Mbps at the Hotel

Results for cmd ping google.com -n 30 were not so promising. Ping times at home between 190 and 335ms (that's bad enough) but at the hotel 1250 to 2000ms!

However I was able to connect to adtelly.tv and stream BBC1 from the United Kingdom without buffering and without connection down (which is what is happening at home). That part is good.

Now the problem. At the hotel, my laptop was getting 5.5Mbps, and the hotel owner was getting 11.4Mbps or faster. He said I have something wrong with my network adapter setup. I don't know if this also relates to my other posting, the Intermittent Error 105 problem.

Can anybody help with a network adapter setting which causes slow internet connections?

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