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#1 Rabbuk

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Posted 07 March 2006 - 08:19 PM

now how do i go about getting it online. Can i host it off my desktop or wats the deal. A step by step guide to getting a website online would be grand. Thanks.
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 01:23 AM

There are two ways to do this.

The first way is to FTP (File Transfer Protocol) it to your server.

You will need a FTP program which you could get from downloads.com

After installing the FTP program and configuring it with your user name and password for your domain, login and you will should see a folder on your domain named 'public_hml' or something similar.

Double-click on this folder to open it. Here you will see a list of your html files.

Upload your webpage ussing the FTP program. Make sure you nme it 'index.html' so it is the first page that comes up when you give out your web address.

The second way is to login to your control panel for your website (which is provided by your webhost) and upload your pages that way by locating the 'public_html' folder and opening then uploading your pages to your server.

If you need further help, let me know.

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Posted 08 March 2006 - 10:37 AM

Hi there,

Just to add a bit to what has already been suggested, the Root Folder on the server that hosts you may have a name like /htdocs/. I think that is a fairly common name these days as well.

Also, it's important to realize that the program that you use for creating your web site may have FTP built into it. A popular and expensive app. such as Dreamweaver, will pretty much cover all your web authoring needs including delivering and updating the pages to your web server. But there are also some free programs that offer FTP as part of there features; examples - HTML Kit, NVU, PSPad.......and a ton of others.

In my beginnings of web authoring, I used Notepad++ to author all my pages, and FileZilla to transport them to the host web server. But I have since had to upgrade to facilitate growing needs. So, in conclusion, based on what your goals are, there are products out there that will have what you need, commercial as well as free.


Hope this helps,

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Posted 08 March 2006 - 07:17 PM

k how do i go about finding a host server?
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Posted 08 March 2006 - 10:42 PM

Hi there,

So do you mean that you have authored some pages in HTML and now you want to know where to put them?

There are some sites out there that offer free hosting like Yahoo Geocities. But your URL will look something like - http://www.geocities.com/yourYahoo!ID. There are others to, just do a search and Im sure that plenty will come up.

If you have the cash to pay for web hosting, I would recommend it. You will be free to manage it however you like, within the rules of the host. There are good deals to be found out there, I would suggest a local company, that you are familiar with. I pay less than $16 a month for a sufficient amount of space for my present needs.


There is also the issue of your chosen domain name. These can be obtained for as low as $5 a year I have seen. Once again, if you spend the cash, you get it personalized, instead of the URL like the above Yahoo example, you get one like - http://www.rabbuk.com or something like that.

I forgot to mention that usually if you find a good web host, you should get plenty, if not unlimited username@yoursitename.com eMail addresses, with aliases as well.


Now, if I am totally misunderstanding you, and you already have an account with a company, but just need to deploy your work, then you will probobly need these three things to log in to your account, and start uploading pages.


1. The Host Name:

(55.555.555.55) or (sftp.hostname.username/htdocs/) or (mysite@55.555.555.55/htdocs/)

- just example, call provider for for their actual string.


2. Username:

mysite

- up to you, once again, this is done by contacting your host.


3. Password:

********

- mix numbers and letters for a stronger password.


I hope I at least answered part of your question, if not, please describe at which stage of the process you are close to, and we can take it from there.


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Posted 14 March 2006 - 10:35 PM

i have authored a page and basically want to get it up on the internet and running.
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Posted 15 March 2006 - 11:58 PM

I've started a response to this post about half a dozen times, and didn't feel I had enough time to answer the question adequately. So now the day is about done, I've got some good tunes on, and I have some time.

Tha absolute only thing you need to do is put your .html page somewhere on your system, set your system to share files, and allow people to browse directly to the page, and open it in their browser. This is simple, crude, and completely the wrong way to do it. In essence, all anybody would need to do to access your computer is type in the IP, and browse to the file. They key phrase being "acess your computer" which means that your system is completely wide open for anybody to take advantage of. Definately not the best solution.

The next cheapest way is to download Apache (which is a web page server), install it on your system, and use it to serve up your web pages. It is a bit difficult to set up the first couple times around, but it can be done. Then you make sure that your firewall is on, and create a rule allowing incoming connections on port 80. Then all anyone needs to do to access your webpage is type in your IP number. When they access your system, Apache will recognize it as a request to serve up the web page, and will spit it out. Apache is free, and available at:
http://www.apache.org/
There are tons of forums and groups available to help you, so it shouldn't be a problem to get it up and going. If I recall correctly, there are places where one can download versions of Apache that are fully ready to go. There are a couple of downsides to this method also. Although it is a bit more secure, you will be sharing bandwidth with whomever happens to be accessing your webpage. You also won't have a cool dot com or dot net name, but maybe you don't care. Also, many ISPs block port 80, so you won't be able to host on that port. But I think (and hopefully someone will correct me), you can use any port you want, as long as Apache is configured correctly, and the IP includes the port number (come to think of it, even if you are using port 80 with the IP number, you might have to include the port; ie 192.168.100.200:80.) At this point, the only expense you have is what you are already spending on your Internet connection.

Before I go off on the rest of this, it is quite possible that your ISP provides free web space with each of it's acount. Mediacom (one of my providers) allows me 40 megs of space, but I have no clue how much bandwidth that entails, or the restrictions. I do know that they can not be commercial ventures, feature porno or warez, etc. At any rate, that may be something that you want to look into.

Also, from now on, I am asuming that Apache or some other Server Software is running on your system.

Now, if you want your own domain, there are other two possibilities. This gets a bit difficult to explain, but I'll do the best that I can. First, you can register your own domain name with someone like GoDaddy.com. GoDaddy is 8 or 9 bucks a year; prices vary. from there, then you need a means to register that domain with a domain name server (DNS) so that people will be able to find your page. I'll come back to this in a minute, because there is another domain option.

If you go to http://freedns.afraid.org/ you can create a domain that piggybacks a registered domain. For instance, I own sweeps-soft.com. If you wanted to, you could create a domain such as mysite.sweeps-soft.com (if mine were publically available). Once you do the "paperwork" with freedns, people would be able to access your web page.

Now, back to registering with DNS. I'm assuming that you already understand what DNS is (if you don't, just ask). You again have two choices. One, you can pay someone to register it for you. I think the cheapest place I saw was $15 a year. They take care of all of the dirty work. Or if you don't mind geting your hands dirty, you can register it through freeDNS, and take care of the updating yourself. It's sort of hard at first, but after awhile you sort of get it.

As already mentioned, you can also have an entity such as AngelFire or Tripod host your site for free. Personally, I hate going to sites hosted there because of the multitude of ads, etc. But if you don't have the cash, then it is a viable option. mind you, if you fart sideways, or use too much bandwidth, they will suspend your site. No warez, cracking, porn, etc.

Now a general rule of thumb is that it is bad to use your production server as your day to day box. If you are planning on hosting a little vanity site for your friends to access, then no big deal. Nobody is going to be hurt by your box going down because someone hacked into your server because you unknowingly downloaded some trojan that turned your server into a spambot..... well, that could be bad. if your ISP thinks you are spamming, they might suspend your acount. At any rate, if you are trying to host a website that is commercial in nature, then you want a completely seperate system. Then you need a router for your now growing network so that when the router gets port 80 requests, it knows which system to send it to.

Then your next option is to rent server space somewhere. If you have no clue what you are doing, and want a dependable site, this is the best way to go. Let someone else worry about all of the nitty gritty, and you can concentrate on the web content. Of course, the expense can be quite high, depending on your bandwidth needs.

In my case, I have a standalone system running Tomcat, which is used to serve up JSP pages, on it's own Cable connection. I moved my everyday systems over to DSL. If my cable happens to go out, I can switch it over to the DSL and be back up in an hour (which is how long it takes for the DNS to propogate the new IP). I registered my domain name with GoDaddy, and administer the DNS myself through FreeDNS.

So, depending on what you want to do, and what your intentions are, there are many possibilities. Maybe you can be a bit more specific about your needs, and we can better help you. :thumbsup:




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