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#1 kymakmsc

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Posted 09 July 2012 - 11:36 AM

How can we detect those unremoved remains after we have
(1) made use of uninstaller tools, and
(2) cleared the registry via regedit?

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 02:44 PM

What unremoved remains do you suspect? Can you be more specific as to what it is you're looking for?

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 08:39 AM

No idea I am sorry! Primarily because I guessed that there must be something in between the task of hard drive reformat as well as the task of (uninstaller + registry clean). My experience was such that if I did not do the hard drive reformat, the entire feature of certain softwares could not be fully recovered regardless of how many times I made use of uninstaller as well as registry clean. That particular mysterious remains is what I am interest to know about and why they could only be get rid off by disk format alone.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 12:19 PM

I'm not sure I completely understand what it is you're trying to accomplish. But I can assure you registry cleaning is overrated, risky and largely unnecessary.

This is Bleeping Computer's response to registry cleaners and optimizers.

Bleeping Computer DOES NOT recommend the use of registry cleaners/optimizers for several reasons:

• Registry cleaners are extremely powerful applications that can damage the registry by using aggressive cleaning routines and cause your computer to become unbootable.

The Windows registry is a central repository (database) for storing configuration data, user settings and machine-dependent settings, and options for the operating system. It contains information and settings for all hardware, software, users, and preferences. Whenever a user makes changes to settings, file associations, system policies, or installed software, the changes are reflected and stored in this repository. The registry is a crucial component because it is where Windows "remembers" all this information, how it works together, how Windows boots the system and what files it uses when it does. The registry is also a vulnerable subsystem, in that relatively small changes done incorrectly can render the system inoperable. For a more detailed explanation, read Understanding The Registry.

• Not all registry cleaners are created equal. There are a number of them available but they do not all work entirely the same way. Each vendor uses different criteria as to what constitutes a "bad entry". One cleaner may find entries on your system that will not cause problems when removed, another may not find the same entries, and still another may want to remove entries required for a program to work.

• Not all registry cleaners create a backup of the registry before making changes. If the changes prevent the system from booting up, then there is no backup available to restore it in order to regain functionality. A backup of the registry is essential BEFORE making any changes to the registry.

• Improperly removing registry entries can hamper malware disinfection and make the removal process more difficult if your computer becomes infected. For example, removing malware related registry entries before the infection is properly identified can contribute to system instability and even make the malware undetectable to removal tools.

• The usefulness of cleaning the registry is highly overrated and can be dangerous. In most cases, using a cleaner to remove obsolete, invalid, and erroneous entries does not affect system performance but it can result in "unpredictable results".

Unless you have a particular problem that requires a registry edit to correct it, I would suggest you leave the registry alone. Using registry cleaning tools unnecessarily or incorrectly could lead to disastrous effects on your operating system such as preventing it from ever starting again. For routine use, the benefits to your computer are negligible while the potential risks are great.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 06:57 PM

Thank you for your advice! In view of its importance, I would not think about registry cleaning anymore from now on. In order to save time and arrive at a quick solution to difficult problems, I would select to do a drive reformat as well as program reinstall instead.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 06:32 PM

Kymakmsc - you said :

arrive at a quick solution to difficult problems, I would select to do a drive reformat as well as program reinstall instead.


I regard a drive re-format as a last ditch solution ! Re-formatting is easy enough, it's the time it takes to re-install all your software - operating system and applications, as well as the time it takes to get them all running the way you want. If the program(s) you want to un-install have their own un-installer, use that. If they don't, use 'Control Panel' / 'Add/remove programs'. As a last resort, I use a program called 'My Un-installer' which so far has caused me no unwanted complications.

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 08:43 PM

, the entire feature of certain softwares could not be fully recovered regardless of how many times I made use of uninstaller as well as registry clean.

What software particularly? Its either the software will run or not which is the only scenario that I see given that it is removed successfully and is applicable and compatible to your system.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 06:50 AM

Hi,Chris Cosgrove

Thank you for your response.

It is my responsiblity to submit every project assigned to me on time. I learnt from cumulative experience when(1)the list of uninstallers I have had and(2)my registry cleaning proved unsuccessful as well as(3)I received no further instructive advice to tackle the problems I am having, drive reformat and program reinstall could ensure me to have everything back to normal within the shortest time span despite so doing would be a bit time consuming (I've to allow for that of course). As long as that minimum number of softwares could help to achieve my objective, I would stick to that in an attempt to get back as much time as possible on reinstalling.




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