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#1 Hal06

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 08:44 AM

Hello. I hope that this is the correct forum.

A friend suggested that I download and install a program called c cleaner. He said it would sped up startup and just help clean the computer up.

Anyone familiar with this software? Is it good? Will it conflict with my Norton?

Thanks.

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#2 cryptodan

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 09:00 AM

This is for CCleaner and other programs that claim to speed up the computer:


Bleeping Computer DOES NOT recommend the use of registry cleaners/optimizers for several reasons:

• Registry cleaners are extremely powerful applications that can damage the registry by using aggressive cleaning routines and cause your computer to become unbootable.

The Windows registry is a central repository (database) for storing configuration data, user settings and machine-dependent settings, and options for the operating system. It contains information and settings for all hardware, software, users, and preferences. Whenever a user makes changes to settings, file associations, system policies, or installed software, the changes are reflected and stored in this repository. The registry is a crucial component because it is where Windows "remembers" all this information, how it works together, how Windows boots the system and what files it uses when it does. The registry is also a vulnerable subsystem, in that relatively small changes done incorrectly can render the system inoperable. For a more detailed explanation, read Understanding The Registry.

• Not all registry cleaners are created equal. There are a number of them available but they do not all work entirely the same way. Each vendor uses different criteria as to what constitutes a "bad entry". One cleaner may find entries on your system that will not cause problems when removed, another may not find the same entries, and still another may want to remove entries required for a program to work.

• Not all registry cleaners create a backup of the registry before making changes. If the changes prevent the system from booting up, then there is no backup available to restore it in order to regain functionality. A backup of the registry is essential BEFORE making any changes to the registry.

• Improperly removing registry entries can hamper malware disinfection and make the removal process more difficult if your computer becomes infected. For example, removing malware related registry entries before the infection is properly identified can contribute to system instability and even make the malware undetectable to removal tools.

• The usefulness of cleaning the registry is highly overrated and can be dangerous. In most cases, using a cleaner to remove obsolete, invalid, and erroneous entries does not affect system performance but it can result in "unpredictable results".

Unless you have a particular problem that requires a registry edit to correct it, I would suggest you leave the registry alone. Using registry cleaning tools unnecessarily or incorrectly could lead to disastrous effects on your operating system such as preventing it from ever starting again. For routine use, the benefits to your computer are negligible while the potential risks are great.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 12:48 PM

Yes CCleaner can be used, however it can also have disastrous results if you do not know what it is you're cleaning. CCleaner has a registry cleaning component. Which is why the warning was issued by cryptodan. If you stick to cleaning temp files, cookies, browsing histories and the recycle bin etc. you'll be fine. Avoid using the registry cleaner unless you know what you're doing.

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#4 Hal06

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 01:40 PM

After reading your replies I don't know that I'll run ccleaner. I certainly don't want to mess with the registry. That said, would publishing a speccy assist with one or two annoying problems? Like slow startup and lots of spinning blue circle interruptions? If so, here it is. Thanks.

http://speccy.piriform.com/results/NEsQLcTxbgo4NNXMhir4UjL

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 02:03 PM

Please download and run the Norton Removal Tool and try a light weight anti-virus like Avast, Avira, or Microsoft Security Essentials. For the simple reason that Norton is a huge system hog.

Also please download and run Temp File Cleaner to remove temp files, because your free space is reaching the point where windows has issues.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 02:58 PM

Thanks, Cryptodan. I'll keep Norton until my subscription expires in a month or so. Are the anti-virus programs that you listed provide the same coverage as Norton? I'll run the Temp File Cleaner.

Thanks, again.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 03:08 PM

Yes they do, and they are free and light weight. I used to pay for McAfee, but it got to bloated. I now use MSE on all my computers, and it has given me no issues.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 05:48 PM

Thank you again for your time and effort.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 08:04 PM

CCleaner has a option for not to delete the logs for MSE. Uncheck in the Applications tab MSE antimare. So you dont have to keep scanning every day.

I have it run automatically via Task Scheduler.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 08:11 AM

CCleaner is OK IMHO (I use it mostly to manage cookies & "tidy up" a bit), it certainly is NOT the "be all & end all" program some profess it to be and it will absolutely NOT "speed up startup" as your friend surmised...it CAN help MANAGE startups among other things. "Cleaning" the registry (as previously suggested) will be USELESS in a best case scenario & DISASTROUS in the worst case.

>>>TFC<<< as suggested by Cryptodan is an excellent program for removing temp files though I'm not sure it's Windows 7 x64 bit compatible .

Just my .02, YMMV.

Edited by Union_Thug, 26 June 2012 - 04:21 PM.





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