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Devastating internet censorship plan (new SOPA) to be put in practice starting July!


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#1 Taoki

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 07:02 PM

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/15/american-isps-to-launch-massive-copyright-spying-scheme-on-july-12/

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-57397452-261/riaa-chief-isps-to-start-policing-copyright-by-july-1/

http://dottech.org/tech-news/28447/isps-in-the-usa-to-start-monitoring-customers-downloads-starting-july-1-2012/

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/07/graduated-response-deal-what-if-users-had-been

I just saw those articles in a post. I was shocked to say the least, and decided to post this on several forums I frequent so the word can be spread.

In summary, all major American ISP's are implementing a system to spy on their users in order to police copyright infringement. There was no legal debate let alone any discussion with the users, and this decision was simply taken and will be applied starting 1 or 12 July. Users considered to be infringing copyright will be punished in several ways... such as their internet being cut off, selective websites being censored, their bandwidth being lowered, and if the offense is repeated users will be constrained to go to special copyright lessons to be allowed on the internet again.

I believe that this is the worst attack initiated against internet users in the US, worse than what SOPA and ACTA were meant to be. If what's said about this initiative is true, something worse than SOPA is already being put in practice starting next week. It's clear that the government and / or Hollywood have started another backroom deal, this time asking ISP's to pretend they've taken the decision on their own so they could censor the internet without any debate in the house or senate (which as proven by SOPA would not pass).

I couldn't begin describing how horrible and surreal this is after what I read. It will be used to cut users off the internet, and even worse to purposely humiliate them in spite (copyright lessons required to access the internet, and lowered data transfer rates as punishment). It will also be used to spy on any website you access, and for the first time in the history of America you will be completely watched by your ISP. They might even be able to read private emails you send / receive. Those are unspeakable practices which could only be imagined in countries like Libia or North Korea.

I don't believe I need to point out that users will not be punished for real copyright infringements only, but false negatives will exist and be heavily abused. Technically, if your ISP believes you are stupid for accessing a website they don't like (which they can now spy on) they may easily invent a claim and cut you off the internet without being questioned by anyone. This will obviously be used for censorship on political subjects and worse too.

Every internet user needs to act urgently, more than they have for SOPA / PIPA last winter. If this decision is not undone, I'm even expecting riots to take place. I'm also hoping that major websites like Google or Wikipedia will do another blackout in awareness to this. At this point I strongly support a criminal investigation to see who's behind those unprecedented attacks on internet users, and believe someone needs to be sentenced to prison for both this and what happened with SOPA.

The only thing I ask of everyone is to please re-post this and spread awareness immediately! We need everyone to know about this fast, so we can have time to protest and / or sign petitions against it. Lets hope this can be stopped before the unthinkable happens, otherwise there will no longer be internet for most of us.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 07:28 PM

Google 'SOPA shelved indefinitely'. Some of your links are a little dated.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 06:19 AM

There are other important things I would like to point out about this, which I didn't fully get to last night. Those are points that I believe everyone should carefully look into and inform others about.

This will allow your ISP to spy on everything you do. If they spy your data they will be able to read your emails, IM's, how many times you called your boss a moron, how many times you sex RP'd online... everything. Theoretically, they can even spy on what you discuss with your co-workers, and secretly share private information with the competitor of the company you work for. Or if you access a porn website, they could tell everyone about it and the things you look at (even your parents or husband / wife). Next, if you access a website about something your admin dislikes, they can easily invent false claims against you to bully you. Imagine being cut off the internet because you are gay or accessed 4chan. Or going to school one day to find out the head teacher mysteriously knows you're gay or something you only said privately, then everyone finds out and you get bullied. Also, what do you think will happen to people who post bad things about America's leadership, the US army, uncover war crimes or government abuses, and that sort of thing... especially with the NDAA being around?

If anyone thinks this won't happen because "they will be nice people and will only use this to catch thieves", you are more than naive. No, it WILL be used for this and much worse if it happens. I don't even need to point out what power hungry and control hungry characters are behind this.

But even if (just for the sake of pretending) this will only be used against pirates. Those pirates might have an online job, not to mention friends they talk with and other activities (unrelated to piracy). Cutting anyone off the internet at this day could cost many their jobs, and some even their lives. And then... being humiliated in spite by being sent to classes about copyright and scolded like a 2 year old by some internet provider? This by itself is a hateful practice, which as a mentality was used by communist and nazi regimes to show their power. Those who spoke against the regime but didn't pose a big threat weren't killed, but instead beaten in public and left without food and water for days, to show an example to those who disobeyed. At a different scale, this is the same mentality being put in practice here with those "lessons", against people who might have done as little as downloading a song. We live in a mad world.

Alongside the practical consequences, this is also an insult to all internet users. We are being qualified as thieves automatically, and investigated prematurely to make sure we aren't stealing. Using the internet will now be a suspicion of theft by itself... also known as being accused of a crime before you even commit it. In any normal world, people would be outraged at such a slap in the face. It's the same as installing cameras in everyone's homes, watching them when they eat / go pee / have sex / etc. just to be sure they aren't raising cannabis in their house. Christ... not even Gaddafi or Kim Jong Il dared to do this.

As for hoping that some ISP's will stay free, no. This is simply a new attempt to pass a law worse than SOPA. Currently, they paid or constrained ISP's to pretend they've taken the decision on their own. After people would have cooled down and enough accepted this practice, they would also pass a law to make the whole thing obligatory. It's basically doing it before it's legal, so people get used to it first and they can later legalize it more easily. That's why everyone needs to act urgently.

One thing's for sure: They are up-front trying to make America a dictatorship, and I'm not talking just about this event (the NDAA is another thing). Many laws worthy of the worst dictatorships are being forcefully pushed in the US. The world has a very important choice to take in the next years, and if the wrong one is taken expect us to return to a medieval terror-based leadership. This isn't a theory or exaggeration, it's happening under our eyes.

Once again, please post about this everywhere you can and spread the word. Make a topic on all forums you visit (if there isn't one already), post it on your Facebook / Twitter, and if you own a blog publish an article. We should also contact every news TV station or website and pressure them to speak about it. Please make people aware of the things I wrote in this post also (feel free to re-post all of it) so they can better see what we're dealing with (as many still think it would only stop piracy and it's ok). We have a disaster beyond words in front of us, if everything we read about this is true.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 12:49 PM

Again bit dated info-sopas been shelved. If your goin to give doomsday warnings you should get your facts straight and up to date.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 02:40 PM

I agree with the_patriot11, I see a lot of speculation, but no updated/relevant information, which makes your discussion points moot. We are open for debate on the subject, but the least we can ask is to get your facts straight and based on up to date articles.

There is simply no point in posting this outdated and incorrect information everywhere on the internet.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 02:41 PM

I know SOPA is dead (or has been shelved indefinitely). This however is something new, and as bad as the old SOPA. The articles were posted this year, and are talking about this July. That's in a week from now, hence why it's extremely dangerous and worrying. I hope it won't be applied... I can't imagine what will happen if it will :(

That said, I didn't check the articles in a lot of depth, since this scared me the instant I saw it. I'm sorry if I spread any misinformation based on what I read if it's incorrect. Felt it's best to bring awareness immediately first thing, knowing what risk the internet is still at after last winter's SOPA / PIPA and ACTA. Would be really nice if it's all untrue...

Edited by Taoki, 24 June 2012 - 02:43 PM.


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Posted 24 June 2012 - 02:43 PM

Only my personal opinion, not an official response.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 03:03 PM

That said, I didn't check the articles in a lot of depth, since this scared me the instant I saw it. I'm sorry if I spread any misinformation based on what I read if it's incorrect. Felt it's best to bring awareness immediately first thing, knowing what risk the internet is still at after last winter's SOPA / PIPA and ACTA. Would be really nice if it's all untrue...

There is a thin line between "fact" and "hoax", especially in this case. for that reason an in-depth analysis of available information is extremely important, which is also why I mentioned it. :)

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 04:04 PM

There is a thin line between "fact" and "hoax", especially in this case. for that reason an in-depth analysis of available information is extremely important, which is also why I mentioned it. :)


I really hope that's true in this case :) Best scenario is that people just got scared over nothing this time... though with what already happened in the past who knows any more.

On a technical note, the whole thing let me asking myself again "why won't all internet users who are scared by the risk of censorship start working on a parallel internet structure already?" During the scandals last winter, I already discussed this, and posted my point about making a parallel internet or internet architecture based entirely on mesh networking or other uncontrollable relays (like WIFI router nodes). So ISP's would not be needed at all, but you'd go from computer to computer all over the world to reach a resource, all computers being ran by normal users. My dev skills are still low, but I'd gladly help if I got the feeling enough people are determined to dive into such a project. At this day though, I'm still waiting.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 02:07 PM

I dunno, from what I can gather from the various articles it looks to me like the "Copyright alert system" or graduated response has already been agreed to by the major ISPs and will be implemented on July 1st 2012. I've not come across anything(so far) stating that it will not be put into play or delayed.

This statement made at the bottom of article(March 14th 2012) from Taoki's second link seems a bit puzzling.

They were wrong of course. The Stop Online Piracy Act and Protect IP Act were run off the rails mostly by the tech sector. It will be interesting to see how the tech sector reacts once accused Internet pirates begin having their Web access suspended.

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http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-57397452-261/riaa-chief-isps-to-start-policing-copyright-by-july-1/


The latest tidbit(updated May 8th 2012) I've come across(so far) is from Wikipedia, Copyright alert system. All the supporting references are from July 7th 2011. Exactly what "updated" entails idk.

At this point it seems this would specifically target P2P, and ISPs would not be divulging any ISP subscriber information to anyone unless it is by court order.

While I don't care for the tactics the MPAA and the RIAA have used, if this "graduated response" were to be implemented, maybe it would help in slowing down the spreading of malware.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 02:57 PM

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 06:08 PM

ROFLLMAO!!!! @ Animal, that one's a keeper! Thanx for the convulsive deep-belly guffaw!

Then I have to ask....

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 02:24 AM

Then I have to ask....

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I REALLY HATE it when that happens!!!

Edited by Union_Thug, 26 June 2012 - 02:25 AM.


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Posted 26 June 2012 - 06:15 AM

I have some good news everyone. It seems the project was delayed until past this July. There's no specific date as to when they wish to implement it, although evil corporations and ISP's are still hoping this year.

http://torrentfreak.com/us-six-strikes-anti-piracy-scheme-delayed-120518/

That likely means they are scared, and have taken notice people are revolted. This is our chance to react and give them a good scare. What I hope will happen is people establishing a date when they can go to their ISP and protest... maybe knock at their door and have a nice heated discussion (I don't wish to imagine a worse scenario yet).

If such happens the project will certainly be killed, and we would further send a message to those who wish to crush the internet so they understand once and for all we'll never accept it in any form. Including those who support CISPA, who they hopefully understand will also not pass for the sake of both sides and everyone else.

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Posted 26 June 2012 - 06:44 AM

....That likely means they are scared, and have taken notice people are revolted.

I can attest to that. I've been told that I am both frightening & revolting by women of all ages for decades :whistle:

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