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#1 keldron

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 02:40 PM

So I am looking to buy some new hard drive(s)

I was looking at some SSD HDD to put my OS and maybe 2-3 games on it ( WOW , DIABLO III , LOL )

and then I was also looking at some external / internal HDD to just put everything else on it ( storage )

Here is the list of what I had in mind :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822211021

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822211068

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152293

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152318

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227757

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226290

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227759

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239044


My budget for both HDD is around 500-600$ no more and I would also like to be able to use them in the future when I will upgrade my system to more modern one .


If any of you guys could suggest some good HDD for a decent price I would appreciate it .

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 04:51 PM

Well...my only comment would be that I would not invest that much money in hard drives...since I expect SSDs to become more feasible purchases for storage within the next couple of years. That's not based on anything other than my own wild imagination :), but it's worth considering.

As for externl drives...I don't like introducing an unnecessary point of failure (the enclosure, the connection within the encosure) when I can just as easily just connect to the motherboard. Again, this may not make sense to many who seem to love external drives, it's purely a bias I have.

I definitely believe in an SSD for the O/S, programs...the Windows partition. I don't game, but games may be better/faster on SSDs.

Just one set of opinions :).

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 05:05 PM

Thx I never considered external HDD to be point of failure but hm.. that puts things into a new perspective for me ... can you recommend a good internal HDD ( for storage of large quantities of data ) and one good SSD for the OS + 2-3 games such as ( WOW , Fallout , Diablo III , LOL ) again the budget is around 500-600$

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 01:52 AM

SSD: SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256D/AM 2.5" 256GB SATA III - $270

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda Green ST2000DL003 2TB - $120

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:21 PM

Any of the 1TB to 2TB drives that exist today...are fine, IMO. I don't believe that any manufacturer makes a better hard drive than another...we aren't talking about more than 5 manufacturers today. The fact that there are 5 when there used to be more...is an indication of the leveling of quality, IMO...others may disagree with my assessment :).

I try not suggest a particular brand of anything...let alone SSDs. Mine is only 60GB, large enough for me to put my existing dual-boot on, it's a Corsair. If you look at sites like Newegg and Tiger Direct (even Amazon), you can choose the one that is right for your needs and at the best price.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 04:55 AM

Hi,

I bought this SSD recently: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227726 ( 2weeks ago) and am happy with it. It's definitely large enough for Win7 and D3. There's still plenty of space left for more too. I'm currently using about 30 GB of the 120, so your games should fit on it too. The agility 3 exists in multiple sizes, up to 360GB I believe. I also have an (old) internal 1TB hard drive for data, that I haven't even looked at for now. 120GB is plenty if you have to fill it with "new" data.
When buying a new hard drive check for the connectors. Eg if your MB supports Sata 3, get some Sata3 hard drives too. Personally, since you have a desktop PC, I would go with an internal hard drive, not only to eliminate the "extra point of failure" but also because SATA is quicker than usb (at least usb2) and you can't trip over wires and crash the drive either when it's in the PC. What remains to be chosen is the spinning speed of the drive, but if you want it for storage and won't be moving large amount of data around all the time, you might want to go with a lower spinning speed, as it has a lower power consumption and runs more quietly.

I also think that 500$ is too much to spend on hard drives. The SSD I bought and the suggested 2TB drive would set you back 200$ in total. But if you want to, knock yourself out. The economy will thank you. :grinner: :wink:

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 06:27 PM

Well the idea is that I want to set up 2x 2TB drives and 1x SSD drive The 2TB drives would be for data storage ( movies , music ect ) and the SSD would be for few games and the OS . The suggested SSD is fine thx for that but the 2TB internal got some mixed reviews ... which I am not sure are any indication of how good the drive is at the same time I would like to get my hands on a drive that won't fail on me within 6 months - 1 year as I will be storing some sensitive / important info on them .

Any suggestions for a GOOD 2 TB ( can be a 1 TB if those are better in quality ) drives ?

The SSD I am going for is the one suggested above ( still deciding on it but these guys are the two ultimate winners )

either 2 X this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227726&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=4082247&SID=skim3687X620620X21ff8f2e6d8380da9c515938d433cf7c

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1x SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC256D/AM 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Desktop Upgrade Kit


So yeah if you know any good 2 TB ( or 1 TB ) drives please let me know as I am looking to buy them within the next 2-3 weeks .

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 08:19 PM

The Samsung SSD, far more reliable then the OCZ.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 03:03 AM

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@killer
What makes you say that? How are OCZ SSDs unreliable?

@keldron
No matter how you decide you go on the SSD, if you go with OCZ I wouldn't get two 120 GB SSD, but rather one 240GB drive.

Samsung/Seagate & Western Digital are the main hard drive producers nowadays and they're making good devices. Personally, I've had a lot of bad look with WD, other's have never had a WD fail on them. If you go with either of them, I think you can't make a bad choice and you can in that range choose based on the ratings users gave to the hard drive.
That doesn't mean that the other hard drive providers are bad. I've just never owned a hard drive by them and can't say much about them.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 10:55 AM

OCZ has had rough past in with their SSDs because of their buggy firmware especially with their older ones. Intel currently has the most stable firmware which is why some pay premium price for their SSDs.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 04:27 AM

Hi,

i see... I'll have to keep an eye on my OZD then. :whistle: It's doing fine so far.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 12:46 PM

FWIW, re OCZ, http://www.storagereview.com/ocz_vertex_4_ssd_review .

I think that it's important to realize that generalizations which may be applicable to a given series of emerging technological products...isn't going to stand the test of time. What may have been true a year ago...probably is not true this year, right now, IMO.

http://techinsidr.com/ocz-addresses-quality-issues-and-buggy-drives/

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 04:01 PM

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5508/intel-ssd-520-review-cherryville-brings-reliability-to-sandforce

Back in October SandForce announced that it had discovered a firmware issue that resulted in unexpected BSODs on SF-2281 drives on certain platforms. Why it took SandForce several months to discover the bug that its customers had been reporting for a while is a separate issue entirely. SandForce quickly pushed out the firmware to OCZ and other partners. Our own internal testing revealed that the updated firmware seemed to have cured the infamous BSOD.

As luck would have it, our own Brian Klug happened to come across an unexpected crash with his 240GB non-Intel SF-2281 based SSD two weeks ago when he migrated it to another machine. The crash was an F4 BSOD, similar in nature to the infamous BSOD issue from last year. While two of the systems we reproduced the BSOD bug on were cured by last year's firmware update, Brian's system (an X58/Core i7 build) was BSODing regularly playing Battlefield 3. Games end up being a great way to trigger the SF-2281 BSOD issue as they frequently switch between periods of idle and load, which does a good job of stressing the power state logic in SandForce's firmware. I immediately sent Brian an Intel SSD 520 to see if the BSOD remained on Intel's drive. Switching to Cherryville caused Brian's BSODs to go away


And the above is an example of why the Intels are better than the OCZs. Read the whole article. Intel took an extra year to get the drive right using the same controller.

http://techinsidr.com/ocz-addresses-quality-issues-and-buggy-drives/

“Lesson learned – Intel SSDs only.”


And Yes I hear the Vertex4 is better than the Vertex3, using Louis's link
http://www.storagereview.com/ocz_vertex_4_ssd_review the benchmarks didn't look that great unless I misread them?

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 11:32 AM

So I found some more Hard drives that look promising and I just want your opinion before I decide to buy anything :

Western Digital WD10EALX Caviar Blue Hard Drive - 1TB, 3.5", SATA 6Gbps, 7200 RPM, 32MB ---- http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7288051&Sku=TSD-1000EALX

Western Digital WD2002FAEX Caviar Black Hard Drive - 2TB, 3.5", SATA 6Gbps, 7200 RPM, 64MB ---- http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7288043&Sku=TSD-2000WD2

Samsung HN-M101MBB Spinpoint M8 2.5" Internal Hard Drive - 1TB, SATA 3G, 8MB, 5400 RPM ---- http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1455520&Sku=S350-1038

Western Digital WDBACY5000ABK-NESN My Passport Essential Portable Hard Drive - 500GB, USB 2.0 and USB 3.0, Black ---- http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6721874&Sku=W10-8404

Seagate ST2000DL003 Barracuda Green 2TB Hard Drive - 2TB, 5900 RPM, 64MB, SATA-6Gb/s ---- http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7192141&Sku=TSD-2000AS3

Seagate Barracuda Green ST2000DL003 2TB 5900 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive ----- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148681

OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) ---- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227706

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 11:38 AM

So out of all these drives mentioned in this forum if you had to choose an SSD , A fast normal drive and a decent storage drive ( does not need to be fast ) which ones would u go for with a budget of around 500-600$ .

Basically speaking I want to buy an SSD for the OS and 1-2 games , a fast normall drive for everything else and a slower storage drive for movies , music ect .

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