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How do I expand my network with a Orange Livebox


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#1 BarkiAl

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 08:11 AM

Hi, Hopefully someone will be able to give me some advice.

We have an orange Livebox, which for the last 5 years has had enough ethernet ports for our needs, and that we need to keep as our primary router as we use the second line option everyday. Orange want us to stop using the Livebox and start using a netgear router, however if we do then we won't be able to use our second line which is the primary reason for using orange in the first place. When i asked them how i could add extra ports to the livebox they told me I couldn't and if i want to add more wired devices i would have to use the netgear router which has 5 ports instead of the 2 on the livebox.

My idea is to add a 5 port switch like this one, so that i can then connect it to the livebox and the livebox will share it's internet connection with an xbox360 and an internet TV and a laptop in 3 different rooms. I don't want to use wireless as there is too much buffering envolved, and I already have ethernet cables run to the rooms already. At the moment we have to swap connections in and out of the back of the livebox whenever we want to use our devices. So my question is this really. I want all the devices to be able to use the wired internet connection from the livebox, will the switch allow me to do this or will i need some other hardware?

Edited by BarkiAl, 24 May 2012 - 08:14 AM.


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Posted 24 May 2012 - 12:32 PM

Hi BarkiAl,

Yes you can use a switch or a router in this case

Orange want us to stop using the Livebox and start using a netgear router,

The reason is why they wanted you to go with that router is because they think that you are overloading there system.

Lets picture this

You have:

Orange box with 2 Ethernet cables we will called them A and B

A is the internet port and B is the VOIP phone system

So they want you to put in a netgear router to balance out the traffic

So buy doing that you place a router in the form of this

Orange box>>>Router>>>TV> xbox 360
and B is still connection to VOIP phone system

A switch can work but its splits up the singal to A, B, C http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_switch
A router is a switch basically with more options for networks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Router_(computing)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-Unmanaged-Desktop-TL-SF1005D-Plastic/dp/B000FNFSPY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1337880629&sr=8-1 this is another switch

Edited by coxchris, 24 May 2012 - 12:35 PM.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 05:02 PM

A switch or router would technically work, but for this I would recommend a switch. The reason would be to prevent "double NAT", which could be worked around but would cause headaches any time you needed to port forward a device to accept incoming connections (ex: game systems, torrents, etc.).

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 07:16 AM

Thanks for the reply. Could i use the netgear router that orange sent me as the switch? On my Livebox I have 2 ethernet connections and a seperate one for the VOIP second line. As stated previoulsy the main reason for staying with orange is because we can call all orange mobiles for free along with making free international calls 24/7 for free.

A switch or router would technically work, but for this I would recommend a switch. The reason would be to prevent "double NAT", which could be worked around but would cause headaches any time you needed to port forward a device to accept incoming connections (ex: game systems, torrents, etc.).


If I understand you correctly, I could struggle connecting my xbox360 to the switch? If so what would be the best way to connect 2Pc's an xbox and a internet TV all by cat5 cables?

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Posted 25 May 2012 - 04:53 PM

If I understand you correctly, I could struggle connecting my xbox360 to the switch? If so what would be the best way to connect 2Pc's an xbox and a internet TV all by cat5 cables?

A router could cause problems, a switch would not.

Thanks for the reply. Could i use the netgear router that orange sent me as the switch? On my Livebox I have 2 ethernet connections and a seperate one for the VOIP second line. As stated previoulsy the main reason for staying with orange is because we can call all orange mobiles for free along with making free international calls 24/7 for free.

You most likely can. What is the exact model of the NetGear router?

You would do a setup similar to this...

Orange Box's Port 2 -> NetGear Router's LAN1 port -> Connect PC/PS3/360 to the NetGear's other LAN ports.

Inside the NetGear's control panel, you'll need to disable DHCP and assign it a static IP and subnet mask on the same network as the "Orange Livebox". This should work with the way you want.

Edited by NpaMA, 25 May 2012 - 04:55 PM.


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Posted 25 May 2012 - 08:34 PM

I don't understand why they send you a router instead of a switch They cannot dictated what you use in your network unless they specific said in the contract.

With this setup you still have that second port for VOIP traffic

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Posted 26 May 2012 - 02:46 AM

I don't understand why they send you a router instead of a switch They cannot dictated what you use in your network unless they specific said in the contract.<br style="color: rgb(28, 40, 55); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(250, 251, 252); "><br style="color: rgb(28, 40, 55); font-size: 13px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(250, 251, 252); ">With this setup you still have that second port for VOIP traffic

I think they want to stop people using their second lines, as they have recently updated their T's&c's to say if you don't use your second line in 90 days then it will be disactivated and not reconnected. They also said that the second line can only be run off the original Livebox and not this new "BrightBox router by Astoria networks"

Anyhow Thanks to all for your replies and I feel alot more confident about expanding my network now.
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