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#1 bourkie

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 03:49 AM

Hi I'm looking at upgrading to a i7 from my core2quad, I don't relay have a budget limit but don't want to go to crazy, I will be re-using my audio card, gtx580, ssd's and hdd's, case and my corsair 1000w PS.

I will be buying from this sight http://pccasegear.com/ (australian)

I want to go for a I7 3930k $599
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=187_346_1298&products_id=18759


I'm after advice for what MB, RAM and CPU cooler to get

been looking at this MB Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3 Motherboard $229
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1299&products_id=18771

Corsair Dominator GT CMT16GX3M4X2133C9 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 $295
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_1301&products_id=19077

and maybe something like this for the cooling $39
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_23_1300&products_id=18670


$1232 total

What do you guys think and any suggestions to these?

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 04:03 AM

I would get a different CPU cooler like this which is pretty good and a lot better then the 212+.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 04:23 AM

What do you guys think and any suggestions...?

Provided your copy of Windows is a retail version, it isn't a problem to install it on another computer. However, under the terms of the licence effective from Windows Vista onwards, you can only do that once, so make sure you choose your motherboard wisely because this is the component which decides what constitutes a new PC.

If you have a retail copy of Windows XP Professional, you can use any number of times.

If on the other hand you have an OEM licence i.e. you were supplied with installation media when you purchased the machine, you cannot use it to install Windows on a new machine on which the motherboard doesn't match the one in the original PC. In this particular case you'll have to purchase a new licence. Windows 7 Ultimate curently costs $319,99.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 04:42 AM

You would be better off getting Home Premium or Professional as all those functions in Ultimate are mostly used by Enterprise users or companies.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:15 AM

You would be better off getting Home Premium or Professional as all those functions in Ultimate are mostly used by Enterprise users or companies.

It should be noted that Windows 7 Home Premium x64 supports a maximum 16GB RAM. If you propose to install more that - you might over time - you'll need either the Professional or Ultimate version.

In addition, Windows 7 BitLocker Drive Encryption is only supported on the "Ultimate" version.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:48 AM

It is highly unlikely that you will use 16GB of RAM. Many home users can install more than that, but being able to use it is entirely something different. BitLocker is good, but if it is anything like the Vista BitLocker, it loses its use case for most home users. This may explain the licensing terms for XP Pro.

If this PC is for gaming, the CPU, though important, will not be stressed as much as the GPU, so you don't really need a very expensive LGA 2011 processor. With the motherboard, the same thing applies. The LGA 2011 is intended as an enthusiast part and Intel price gouges, err, marks up those parts accordingly. You are also spending a small fortune on RAM due to your selection of LGA 2011, you can change to the LGA 1155 or even AM3+ platform and cut down the cost overall.

What exactly are you going to be doing with this PC?

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:55 AM

The only criticism (hardware related) is the motherboard. Gigabyte has had more problems with their X79 boards tham some of the other OEMs. My advice is to research carefully before you spend your cash.

I do know the GA-X79-UD3 was one of the boards that was effected. There were VRM problems (smoke,fire etc) and I do not know if the problems were ever fixed. I know a new BIOS was released to throttle back voltage to protect components, but it wasn' really a fix, just something to mask a hardware problem.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:21 AM

It is highly unlikely that you will use 16GB of RAM....

I seem to recall Bill Gates saying something similar when back in May 1991 when talking to the Press about RAM namely, "640K should be enough for anyone".

It isn't today you should be thinking about, but a couple of years time. Technology is advancing very rapidly now and it's quite conceivable that more memory will be required to run a particular game or other application. Restricting yourself to the max 16GB may prove to be regretable at some time in the not too distant future.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:27 AM

I've heard those problems arise with the Gigabyte X79 boards but at the moment, the Z77 Gigabyte boards are doing really well and has been rated pretty high by reviewers.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:46 AM

True, but most applications are still 32-bit executable, not native 64-bit, so they really cannot use RAM beyond a certain amount. For the home user, 16GB is usually more than enough. I've been using x64 since Vista was launched, I have yet to encounter an insufficient RAM problem on 4GB and 8GB.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 05:21 PM

Its mainly a gaming pc, which I do record with (x split and fraps), my current system bogs down a lot when recording so I'd rather have 16gb ram cause I know I'm good for ram for a fair wile.

I have the full retail version of win 7 ultimate so a os isn't a problem.

Money isn't a problem in this build, the 3930k should last me a fair wile with 16gb ram and I can go sli if games start becoming a more then the 580 can handle, my main concern is getting a good reliable motherboard and ram that I won't have too many problems with.

Would the

ASRock X79 Extreme4 Motherboard http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1299&products_id=18803

or

ASUS P9X79 Motherboard http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1299&products_id=18817

be a better choice?

That cooler doesn't look to bad, I might give that a go

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:48 AM

Its mainly a gaming pc, which I do record with (x split and fraps), my current system bogs down a lot when recording so I'd rather have 16gb ram cause I know I'm good for ram for a fair wile.

I have the full retail version of win 7 ultimate so a os isn't a problem.

Money isn't a problem in this build, the 3930k should last me a fair wile with 16gb ram and I can go sli if games start becoming a more then the 580 can handle, my main concern is getting a good reliable motherboard and ram that I won't have too many problems with.

Would the

ASRock X79 Extreme4 Motherboard http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1299&products_id=18803

or

ASUS P9X79 Motherboard http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1299&products_id=18817

be a better choice?

That cooler doesn't look to bad, I might give that a go

Definitely go with the ASUS board which can support up to 64GB RAM. ASRock tends to be associated with budget priced boards and therefore cheap components.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:21 AM

The Asus for sure because it's a much more solid board overall in comparison to the AsRock but ASRock isn't that bad too.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 11 May 2012 - 06:05 AM

The Asus would probably be a more solid board. From what I've seen, except for a few workloads, LGA 2011 systems aren't going to offer much beyond what LGA 1155 can give with gaming, even though they are more expensive. ASRock isn't exactly a budget board, they are very... generic whereas Asus aims at the gamer or enthusiast.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 08:42 PM

After some looking around and everyone advice I'm up to this for $1128

I have change to one of the cheaper ram kits after doing some looking around and finding that there wouldn't be much of a difference between this kit and one worth twice the prise?

G.Skill Ripjaws Z F3-12800CL9Q-16GBZL (4x4GB) DDR3 $115

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_538_1301&products_id=18838

ASUS P9X79 Pro Motherboard $329

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_711_1299&products_id=18777

Intel Core i7 3930K $599

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=187_346_1298&products_id=18759

Intel RTS2011LC Liquid Cooling System $85

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_23_1300&products_id=18914


I also decided to get a new case and HHD, that way I can just swap out the old PSU and GPU I had and keep it a operational system to save backing stuff up

I'm going my 64gb SSD for windows, and 128GB for games I play the most so was thinking something like this for storage and to run some ganes

Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB WD5002AALX $119

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=210_344&products_id=16861


As for the case I don't have much idea, just something that does the job, maybe this one

CoolerMaster Elite 334U Case $45

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_547&products_id=18568

Thats about it, hows it look?, anything I should change?




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