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A gaming computer for up to 800


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#1 just_a_random_guy

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 11:52 AM

Hello!

I need a new computer for games (it must have a monitor, keyboard and mouse included) to up to £800. I'm not really good in hardware, but it would be the best if:

- the store would be http://www.overclockers.co.uk (because they offer monthly payments, which is the only option of buying the computer for me)
- it must also have a monitor, keybord, mouse and headphones with the microphone
- you can actually skip the choice of the hard drive, because I've just bought a new 1TB Samsung drive
- I've already chosen the case: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-013-FD so please don't change that if it isn't necessary
- Also, if you could include the cooler for the processor, because I don't want to use stock one from Intel

I hope that you will be able to help me get a computer which will be able to handle new games for at least a year. I know, I can't expect too much for this price, but I can't really spend more.


Regards :-)

Edited by just_a_random_guy, 30 March 2012 - 11:58 AM.


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Posted 30 March 2012 - 12:32 PM

Hello :welcome: to Bleeping Computer!

What types of games are you planing on playing on this machine?
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#3 just_a_random_guy

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 01:07 PM

Hello :welcome: to Bleeping Computer!


Thank you :)

What types of games are you planing on playing on this machine?


I was planning on playing games like Mass Effect 3, Metro 2033, Homefront, Bulletstorm, GTA V (when it will come out, of course ;) ), Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 and Saints Row The Third. Also, a few older titles like GTA IV :)




Regards :-)

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 07:32 PM

Given how games are made, you don't need one with a super high-end CPU. But, you may want to consider spending more on a good GPU.

Here's an idea:

Case: You already got this.

Motherboard: Asus M5A97 PRO AMD 970 - A good board that supports the latest AMD CPU's. 85.19 inc VAT

CPU: AMD Bulldozer FX-6 Six Core 6200 Black Edition 3.80Ghz - For what you do, this is enough. 139.99 inc VAT

GPU: PowerColor HD 7850 2048MB - A solid upper mid-range card. 191.99 inc VAT

Monitor: Asus VE247H 24" Widescreen LED - An excellent TN monitor. 169.99 inc VAT

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - You need this. 79.98 inc VAT

Power Supply: Corsair Gamer Series GS 600W - More than enough power for your computer from an excellent company. 58.99 inc VAT

CPU Cooler: Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro - A large air cooler with a big fan. I'm not sure if this is an HDT cooler, if it is, it requires a different thermal compound application method. 26.99 inc VAT

RAM: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz - Enough RAM for most people. 23.99 inc VAT

ODD: Sony Optiarc AD-7280S - A simple DVD drive. 19.99 inc VAT

HDD: You already have one.

Total: 797.10

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 05:19 AM

Thank you for help, DJBPace07 :)


But, you may want to consider spending more on a good GPU.


So what are you saying is that I should get even better GPU from the one you suggested? What should I get then?




Regards :-)

Edited by just_a_random_guy, 31 March 2012 - 07:18 AM.


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Posted 31 March 2012 - 07:40 AM

He is basically saying that you should spend more the GPU then CPU because games are usually bound to GPU more then the CPU. You could get a faster GPU from the suggested one but it's gonna go over your budget.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 08:38 AM

Thank you for your answer, killerx525.

He is basically saying that you should spend more the GPU then CPU because games are usually bound to GPU more then the CPU.



Oh, sorry I must have misunderstood something. Now everything is clear ;)


You could get a faster GPU from the suggested one but it's gonna go over your budget.


Yeah, I can't really go over this price atm...



BTW. If I bought another Powercolor HD 7850 in a few months (or later) and made a Crossfire, would it be a good idea? I'm asking because I've heard that Crossfire/SLI is problematic with some (especially older) games. Is it true?

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 10:09 AM

Well with the suggested setup, you would need to spend a bit more on the motherboard, a higher wattage power supply and a larger case. It's usually better to Crossfire high end cards like the 79xx. Based from my experience, my 6950s doesn't really have issues with old games like GTA IV(2008).

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Games: APB: Reloaded, Hours played: 3100+  System2: Late 2011 Macbook Pro 15inch   OFw63FY.png


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Posted 31 March 2012 - 10:15 AM

Aha, well I think I'll just go with the suggested config and that's it, at least till next upgrade ;)





Thank you for help DJBPace07 and killerx525 :)



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Posted 31 March 2012 - 10:20 AM

If you really wanted the suggested config to Crossfire ready, you could ditch the screen which would make room in the budget but i doubt that would be possible.

>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Games: APB: Reloaded, Hours played: 3100+  System2: Late 2011 Macbook Pro 15inch   OFw63FY.png


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Posted 31 March 2012 - 10:25 AM

Well, I could do that, but still the problem is the PSU and case - I really like this one :D

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 10:39 AM

Technically you could use the case but the cards will run a bit hotter and it would be a bit cramp. If you do take out the monitor, something like this motherboard and this power supply. For the monitor, i found this which is great deal and it still keeps within your budget.

Edited by killerx525, 31 March 2012 - 10:42 AM.

>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Games: APB: Reloaded, Hours played: 3100+  System2: Late 2011 Macbook Pro 15inch   OFw63FY.png


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Posted 31 March 2012 - 11:28 AM

I'll go for it then :) Thank you for your advice!

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 11:35 AM

After looking around, i found this 24 inch monitor that is within your budget.

>Michael 
System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 01:22 PM

Keep in mind that the Gigabyte 990XA-UD3 AMD 990X as suggested by Killer is little more than a 970-based motherboard with additional PCI-E X16 slots without any major increase in PCI-E X16 bandwidth. To really use the power of a Crossfire setup, you really should consider going with a 990FX-based motherboard, like the Asus Sabertooth 990FX. The Radeon 7800 series is fairly high-end, getting almost as much performance as the GTX 570.

Edited by DJBPace07, 31 March 2012 - 01:23 PM.

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