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Replacing Video Card


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#1 keldron

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:48 AM

Hello !

I am looking for an upgrade to my video card for an older system that I use primarily for some gaming ( WOW , League of Legends , Skyrim , Fallout 3 ) and light internet / video usage .

My old card ATI 2600XT fan died on me ( it is not spinning and when plugged into PCI slot the card just heats up and then shuts down my PC due to the fact that the fan is not spinning - and yes I cleaned the fan from the dust and so go on and it still does not spin )

The cards that I was looking at are :

XFX HD-455X-ZAFR Radeon HD 4550 1GB 64-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card ------ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150582

HIS H467QR1GH Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ------- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-161-315&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=2#scrollFullInfo

Visiontek 900299 Radeon HD 4670 Video Card - 1GB DDR3, PCI Express 2.0 (x16), DVI, HDMI, VGA, Single-Slot, CrossFireX Ready ------- http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=581654&CatId=3669


My computer specs are as follow :

Windows 7


Motherboard:
Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Model P5KPL-CM (Socket 775)
Version System Version
Chipset Vendor Intel
Chipset Model P35/G33/G31
Chipset Revision 10
Southbridge Vendor Intel
Southbridge Model 82801GB (ICH7/R)
Southbridge Revision A1
System Temperature 35 C
BIOS
Brand American Megatrends Inc.
Version 0608
Date 05/07/2009
Voltage
CPU CORE 1.368 V
MEMORY CONTROLLER 1.824 V
+3.3V 3.280 V
+5V 4.896 V
+12V 8.922 V
VIN5 1.608 V
VIN6 1.280 V
PCI Data
Slot PCI-E
Slot Type PCI-E
Slot Usage Available
Bus Width Unknown
Slot Designation PCIEX16
Slot Number 0
Slot PCI
Slot Type PCI
Slot Usage Available
Bus Width 32 bit
Slot Designation PCI_1
Slot Number 1
Slot PCI
Slot Type PCI
Slot Usage Available
Bus Width 32 bit
Slot Designation PCI_2
Slot Number 2
Slot PCI-E
Slot Type PCI-E
Slot Usage Available
Bus Width Unknown
Slot Designation PCIEX1_1
Slot Number 3

CPU
Intel Pentium 4 520
Cores 1
Threads 2
Name Intel Pentium 4 520
Code Name Prescott
Package Socket 775 LGA
Technology 90nm
Specification Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Family F
Extended Family F
Model 3
Extended Model 3
Stepping 4
Revision D0
Instructions MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
Virtualization Unsupported
Hyperthreading Supported, Enabled
Fan Speed 4141 RPM
Bus Speed 200.0 MHz
Rated Bus Speed 800.0 MHz
Stock Core Speed 2800 MHz
Stock Bus Speed 200 MHz
Caches
L1 Data Cache Size 16 KBytes
L1 trace cache 12 Kops
L2 Unified Cache Size 1024 KBytes
Core 0
Core Speed 2799.9 MHz
Multiplier x 14.0
Bus Speed 200.0 MHz
Rated Bus Speed 800.0 MHz
Thread 1
APIC ID 0
Thread 2
APIC ID 1

RAM
Memory slots
Total memory slots 2
Used memory slots 1
Free memory slots 1
Memory
Type DDR2
Size 2048 MBytes
Channels # Single
DRAM Frequency 333.3 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 5 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 5 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 5 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 15 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 2T
Physical Memory
Memory Usage 71 %
Total Physical 1.99 GB
Available Physical 587 MB
Total Virtual 3.98 GB
Available Virtual 2.07 GB
SPD
Number Of SPD Modules 1
Slot #1

POWER SUPPLY : Thermaltake PurePower 430-Watt Power Supply - ATX, Dual 80mm Fan, 20/24-Pin, SATA Ready, PCI-E Ready
http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1389575&CatId=1078


So I am wondering which one of these cards would be the best for me ? Or if there is any better card that my motherboard / power supply will be able to power up within the budget of around 200$
Any help regarding this issue would be greatly appreciated .


Thank you for your time ,

Sincerely Keldron :)

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:29 AM

You can get a much better graphics card for under $200 that meets your requirements, but they will be limited by your CPU and PSU, so we cannot get too crazy.

I suggest two upgrades, first the GIGABYTE GV-R667D3-1GI Radeon HD 6670 1GB should more than meet your needs and satisfy your PSU's limitations. Make sure you don't need a low-profile card typically found in slimline or home theater PC's. The next would be the Intel Pentium E5700 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core which is compatible with your motherboard and will offer a better experience with Skyrim and Fallout 3. It's unfortunate you cannot easily find retail boxed Core 2's anymore, they are even better. You can also get a Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 if you really want to squeeze out every last bit of performance.

Edited by DJBPace07, 28 March 2012 - 08:30 AM.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 12:42 PM

Thank you for your suggestions I will look into them and see what I come up with !

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:18 PM

As I am to replace this system within a year or year and a half I think I will go for the video card and ram and maybe skip on the CPU ... how much increase in processing piower would this new CPU give me compared to the old one ?

Edited by keldron, 28 March 2012 - 02:56 PM.


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Posted 28 March 2012 - 06:55 PM

Those games can use dual cores, your current CPU is a single core CPU with HyperThreading. A Pentium CPU, even a dual core, isn't that good to begin with. Theoretically, it is a doubling of processing power.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:36 PM

ahhhh I see ... well then I will splurge on the CPU as well . Thank you for your time and valuable knowledge .

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 03:54 PM

Should you decide to replace your CPU, this is your CPU support list. Take special note of the BIOS as you will need that version or later for the CPU to work.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 02:46 AM

Actually I think I am also going to splurge on new HDD ( one internal and one External ) is there something you would recommend in that department ( the internal I would like to be 1-1.5 TB the external anywhere from 500gb to 1TB .I would like the drives to be transferable to a newer system I am planning to buy within a year maybe year and a half from right now .

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 04:55 PM

Drive prices are still a little high due to flooding in Asis. Which drive to get depends on purpose. If you want a large drive to store data, not frequently accessed programs, a Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB would be great. If you want something that will start your PC quick and run programs very quickly, you will need an SSD, such as the Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F120GBGT-BK 2.5" 120GB SATA III. An SSD is meant to only store your most frequently used programs and operating system, with everything else out on a traditional drive.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 05:01 PM

Ok thank you very much for your help this gives me a general idea of what I will need to make this computer last me a bit longer and maybe later on use it as a legacy / test workstation or something like that .

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:10 AM

Ok so after careful consideration here is what I went for in terms of my upgrades

CPU
Intel Pentium E6600 @ 3.06GHz
Wolfdale 45nm Technology


Graphics
SMB2330H (1920x1080@60Hz)
512MB GeForce 9800 GT (EVGA)

^ I got this Video Card for free from my friend ^_^ !

Now I wonder if I need more powerful power supply unit then the one I mentioned before ( This is the one I have now POWER SUPPLY : Thermaltake PurePower 430-Watt Power Supply - ATX, Dual 80mm Fan, 20/24-Pin, SATA Ready, PCI-E Ready
http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1389575&CatId=1078 ) and if you could recommend one ( within a 200$ price range )


I am also about to order Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model 996760 <--- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226214




With this new core my PC is running the games I wanted it to run on max settings with no hiccups THX A LOT MAN !!!!

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:20 AM

Well it depends on the games you want to play but the 9800GT is outdated. If you are willing to spend on a new graphics card then it would be necessary to buy a solid power supply.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:05 PM

The games I play are WOW , Fallout 3 , Fallout New Vegas , League of Legends and that's about it . As for 9800 being outdated hm.. it is kinda outdated I guess but it runs these games pretty well ... What Video Card / PSU would you recommend for my pc though ? If it's within reasonable range I can splurge some more $$ on this PC before buying parts for the new one .

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:18 PM

WOW at max graphics settings is pretty demanding. How much do you want to spend on the graphics card? For the power supply, this should do the job.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 03:16 PM

around 200$ on card and roughly the same on PSU




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