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Boot Partition Is Not The Windows Partition


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#1 pascor22234

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Posted 18 February 2006 - 01:24 PM

I've been re-installing XP about every 2-3 months because I'm very hard on the OS by trying new programs and then deleting them. Last time, for the first time, the Windows partition is different than the boot partition. There are a total of 4 partitions on a single physical drive. Boot.ini is as follows:

[boot loader]
timeout=8
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(4)\WINDOWS="MS XP Pro" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

The default= parameter used to specify "partition(1)". I have no idea how the change happened. How can I put the boot partion back onto the Windows partition, specifically partition(1) ? I can restore the 3 data partitions, if necessary, but don't know how to identify partition(1) and make sure it is made the boot and Windows partition. BTW, I've been using Partition Majic and the Windows install disc to create and manage the partitions.

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Posted 18 February 2006 - 03:26 PM

Reformat your hard drive, make it three partitions:

1 for the op system
2 for all programs not part of the op system
3 for all data.

Then do a fresh installation of Windows.

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Posted 18 February 2006 - 10:22 PM

There are 4 partitions now. If I wipe the disk and start from scratch, how do I know this problem won't happen again ? How did it happen in the first place ? Will copying (or moving) the root files to the Windows partition and then editing boot.ini fix the problem ? How does Windows determine which partition should be the root partition and which should be the Windows partition ?

Wiping the disk is an extreme last-ditch fix. Surely there must be a more elegant way ?

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Posted 23 February 2006 - 04:08 PM

Windows will always try and write the boot info to the boot drive (which is, in most cases C:\ ) - it'll even do this if you're using SATA and happen to have an IDE drive still installed. And it'll put it on the first partition on that drive. That's where the BIOS looks for it.

Now, as for the default Windows installation - you'll have to manually install it on the boot drive - first partition. There isn't a way to move it to the boot drive - although you may be able to migrate your settings from the old to the new installation.

It may be that the changing of the partition numbers is related to where Windows installed itself. When you install Windows - pay careful attention to where it says that it's installing to.
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Posted 24 February 2006 - 03:30 PM

Thanks for the advice. I found the problem. Somehow - who knows why - the first physical partition got changed into an extended partition. I guess that during the last OS install Windows saw that it couldn't make that the boot partition though it could put all the OS files there. It put the files boot.ini, ntdetect.com, etc., on the next physically available partition, though somehow it determined that it was partition #4, not #2.

I had to run System Commander off of its boot CD in order to convert the extended partition back to a "normal" (primary ?) one. This, however, wiped the partition of all data, and so, I had to do a re-install. I'm getting pretty good at doing re-installs, setting restores and application re-installs !

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Posted 25 February 2006 - 02:24 AM

Partition the drive so that the programs you typically install then uninstall are on a virtual partition seperate from C or the Windows partition.

I always have three partitions - one for the op system, one for all other non-connected programs, and the third for all data storage (from all aps).

Even better is a second hard drive for everything but Windows.

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Posted 25 February 2006 - 08:21 PM

For the more advanced user (one who's experimenting with their system) I always recommend 2 drives (at a minimum). Keep your "perishable" stuff on the second drive - so that when the first one crashes - you just install an old image and it already points to the current data! :thumbsup:
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