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#1 Scaddattle

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:54 PM

Hey guys, just asking, would this all work out?
Motherboard:
ASUS P8P67-LE
CPU:
i3 2100
RAM:
4G Kit 1333 Transcend x4
PSU:
A-Power 680
Graphics Card:
1G GTS450 Gigabyte
Fan:
Antec TrueQuiet
Hard drive internal:
Seagate SATA3 1T
Case:
GMC X7 X-Station Lite Mid-Tower

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 12:59 AM

Absolute garbage PSU, only about 230 watts on the 12V rail. Real bottom feeder stuff.
I would go for a 2X2gig setup for memory. No need to fill all the slots up when you will likely have to upgrade to 8 gig anyway.
Why do you need that extra "Antec Tru Quiet" fan? I think the case comes with 3?

If you can get the money, go 2X4gig on the memory, and get a real PSU. Budget $60 and grab a decent 500 watt Antec/Corsair/Seasonic unit. You can find CX series Corsairs for under $50, sometimes $29 after rebate.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:19 AM

Oh soz im new to computers but really are u sure only 4 gig ram i also forgot to mention im goin to be playing games like BF3 and Skyrim my fault but atleast like a 8 gig right. Also i thought the PSU was a 680w i thought it meant that, My bad but thanks mate didnt realise.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 02:24 AM

Also one more thing the case i got, was a bit old and was used before. There was only one fan in the back and there was a slot for a 120mm fan on the side.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 07:57 AM

OK, I understand your fan situation.

Main thing on PSU selection is the "12V+" rail. That A Power you listed has a 22 amp 12V+, or 264 watts. Even the inexpensive PSUs from the brands I listed run at least 400 watts output on the 12V+. Both CPU, and your videocard, pull mainly from the 12V+ rail. Older PSUs have larger outputs on the 3.3 and 5V rails which make the total number of watts look good for advertising, but on a modern system are essentialy useless. When shopping look at that 12V+ rating, and avoid PSUs with the little 120V-240V switch on the back.

Memory is cheap. 8 gig is better than 4. 2 sticks of 4gig each is preferred to 4 sticks of 2gig each.

Be aware Skyrim is a bit of a resource hog. The rig you are putting together is at the low end of the spectrum when trying to play the two games you listed. That GTS 450 is going on 2 generations old about now with the release of Kepler in March-April.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 06:21 PM

How much are you willing to spend? Keep in mind that you will also have to purchase a copy of Windows for about $100.

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 11:28 PM

ok well i found a different PSU its called the Intech 550W from this website http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/intech-550w-p-18281.html?sort=3a

Also for the Graphics card then if the GTS 450 isnt good enough then what should i get instead? i can only spend about $100-$150 on the graphics card?

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Posted 27 February 2012 - 11:57 PM

I can aslo get the Gainward GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 07:11 AM

Have you taken a look at the Radeon 7770 or 7750? Those should be in your price range. Your link goes to an Australian website, I assume you are there and not in the U.S.? This will change pricing if we are looking at non-U.S. prices.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 12:02 AM

yes i am in australia ill check it then thanks changed the setup
Motherboard:
ASUS P8z68-V-LX
CPU:
i3 2130 3.4ghz
RAM:
4G Kit 1333 Transcend x2
PSU:
Antec Strictly 550w
Graphics Card:
1G GTX 550 Gigabyte
Fan:
Antec TrueQuiet
Hard drive internal:
Seagate SATA3 1T
Case:
GMC X7 X-Station Lite Mid-Tower

Also what is better out of these cards?


Gigabyte 1G 6850OC

Asus 1G GTX 550Ti

Gigabyte 1GB GTX550 Ti

Gainward GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB PCI-Express

Which would work better for something like BF3 or Skyrim on Ultra and Full 1080

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 05:53 PM

The Radeon 6850 is significantly more powerful than the 550 Ti. Computer resolutions work a bit differently than television resolutions. PC LCD monitors have native resolutions, most of which are 1080 by design. There are two kinds of monitors out right now, the 1920 x 1080 monitors, which are basically televisions minus a TV tuner, and 1920 x 1200, which have higher resolutions and are meant for PC's. These are native resolutions and if the game can support them, they are either 1080p or above with 1920 x 1200 being slightly better.

As for the BF3 and Skyrim thing, those are two different animals when it comes to graphics. Skyrim isn't fast paced and wasn't really "Designed for the PC," it was more of a port at launch. Now, several months after that, it does have a high resolution texture pack which helps set it apart. BF3 aims for photorealism and is faster paced. Both games also suggest different cards, with BF3 recommending at least a Radeon 6950, more if you want to use ultra. With BF3, a 6850 should get you 30fps on high, but you will need more than that if you want ultra. For that, I would get a 6970, 7950, or 7970. These are very high-end cards. With Skyrim, you're good at the 6850 level (I can run it easily on my old 5850) but BF3 is another beast entirely.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 03:28 AM

wow thanks mate never knew that stuff about resolution, but anyway yer
i've changed again now

Motherboard:
ASUS P8z68-V-LX
CPU:
i5 2400 3.3ghz but it is x4 cores
RAM:
4G Kit 1333 Transcend x2
PSU:
Antec Strictly 550w
Graphics Card:
1G what do you think then the 1G Sapphire 7770 (1Ghz) or the Gigabyte 1G 6850OC (820MHz)
Fan:
Antec TrueQuiet
Hard drive internal:
Seagate SATA3 1T
Case:
GMC X7 X-Station Lite Mid-Tower

This is hopefully my final setup, only thing is these Graphics cards. Also good news i found out i can get a card about $200-$250, so if u have any suggestions they will be very much appreciated thx.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 03:36 AM

also when u are choosing the $200-$250 Graphics please be sure if they are compatible with my Motherboard and also that my CPU doesn't bottleneck the Graphics card i have no idea how to tell if it will thx :)

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 03:40 AM

i was thinking the GTX 560OC Ti? Also sometime in July i may be able to get another so i can sli both of them and maybe could run alot of games in Ultra even BF3 and Skyrim?

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 07:09 AM

The 560 Ti is near the same as a Radeon 6950. The Radeon 7770 is roughly the same as a Radeon 6850. You should be fine with bottlenecks, unless you run a dual core or a quad under 2.7 GHz., you are usually good. You can probably run an older Phenom II X4 at the same speed and still have the needed CPU performance. With SLI or Crossfire, you are dependent on drivers which adds a processing overhead to say nothing about needing a better PSU. You are better served pooling your money now and getting a high-end GPU. Not all games scale well with multiple graphics cards and one major card will be better in such situations. Keep in mind that, with multiple graphics cards, the GPU's need to have the exact same graphics data in their buffer (GPU memory). If you have a large display, multiple monitors, or use certain antialiasing techniques, you should be at least a 2GB card.

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