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Are We Too Technologically Dependant?


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#1 yano

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Posted 16 February 2006 - 07:41 PM

Simple Question:

Are we too technologically dependent today? Could this be a problem, if we have trouble supplying for the technology?

Edited by jgweed, 20 February 2006 - 01:17 PM.


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Posted 16 February 2006 - 08:31 PM

What do you mean "supplying for the technology"
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Posted 16 February 2006 - 10:16 PM

What if the day comes when we can no longer afford or generate enough power to keep all the computers in the world running, or other technologies? Like traffic lights, radios, cell phones, etc...

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Posted 16 February 2006 - 11:52 PM

The problem of technology is that it now progresses faster than the ability of humans to understand it completely. Beginning with the industrial revolution in England and continental Europe, technology advanced at an ever more rapid pace, fed by the mutual interdependencies of each area of advancement. These inventions, which seemed to offer such promise, were soon found to have a darker side as the human cost began to manifest itself in the real world in which humans live, and in ways subtle and completely unforseen.
The Brave New World of the Crystal Palace soon turned into the dark and dirty towns of Dicken's Hard Times and Arnold's "Dover Beach."

The pace that overwhelmed the honest Victorians was much slower than today. Technology has an vested apparatus and has resulted in ever-increasing specialisation of knowledge that leaves the average person completely at the master of others for even a slight understanding of the individual area in question. And these teachers do not, and probably cannot, have a complete grasp of the complexities involved with hundreds of new inventions interacting with one another in history.

It is thus the disparity between (technical) knowledge and human understanding (life-integration) that can produce great crises. We have not, for example, really absorbed that there is a limit to natural resources, especially fossil fuels, that will be approached sooner rather than later, and so we are currently not expending the necessary effort to find alternative sources in an orderly way.

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Edited by jgweed, 16 February 2006 - 11:54 PM.

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Posted 17 February 2006 - 12:45 AM

....that's exactly what i was going to say jg ........ you stole my thoughts.....

I really don't think i've ever looked at one of your posts and been disappointed :thumbsup:

Anyway, yeah, i think the world is becoming too dependent on technology. There have been many movies about what happens if technology gets out of control.

We've already seen this before. Look at the Y2k scare 6 years ago. People started freaking out about the technology failing. If it was that bad back then, without strong evidence for it occuring, imagine if we knew it was a sure thing....

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Posted 17 February 2006 - 01:13 PM

Since I was professionally engaged in the Y2K scare, I might actually take a slightly different perspective on it, since on this occasion, the computer community discovered the problem well in advance of the turn of the century, certainly communicated it (first and primarily to colleagues, who then convinced end users of the potential disaster), and thus prevented a major problem.
At the time, the large company for which I worked had a very extensive mission-critical catalogue of its own programmes, many of which had been modified many times and patched and duct taped together over 15 to 20 years . Even with an expanded programming staff, there was no possiblity of reviewing all the hundreds of thousands of lines of code and fixing Y2K compliance.
The company made a major decision in abandon most of the in-house programmes and purchase an enterprise suite from outside. Once we finally understood all the ways the homegrown programmes interfaced with one another, and how to translate the current functionality into a completely new system and user interface, the race began. FYI, we won by 3 months, but it was a "near run thing" to use Wellington's phrase about Waterloo.
At the same time, the company completely reviewed it business processes and modified many of these to conform to both best practices and end-user needs. As the new system redevoloped itself, and the education and change-management process began, hundreds of users---dependent on systems for everything---underwent a rather traumatic period.
Here, a rather simple technological change certainly transformed an entire company and restructured daily activity for hundreds of associates.

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Posted 17 February 2006 - 05:46 PM

The world is too dependant on the natural resources, one day. :thumbsup:
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Posted 17 February 2006 - 06:42 PM

i think we are far too dependant on technology but theres no way to stop the masses from using technology and therefore energy so the only option is to find a new energy source or to make the old one last somehow.
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Posted 18 February 2006 - 01:41 AM

Individuals, especially in the United States, could make a difference. They could PLAN shopping trips, they could BUY fuel-efficient automobiles, they could REDUCE WASTE by turning off lights in unoccupied rooms, they could RECYCLE products instead of littering our streets and highways. The government could EDUCATE and ENCOURAGE fuel-conservation and increase SUBSIDIES for research.
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Posted 18 February 2006 - 04:00 PM

There are lots of things people and big corporates could do, but it might interfere with their lifestyle or big moneymaking ventures.
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Posted 19 February 2006 - 10:57 PM

Regardless of supplying computers. Do you think we rely too much on computers? Do you think we will ever trust computers for voting? PoliceBots? PresidentBots? :thumbsup:

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Posted 20 February 2006 - 12:08 AM

Do you think we rely too much on computers?


I an not very clear about what you mean by rely.

I rely on my car to get me to work.
I rely on my spreadsheet to do correct calculations such as 2*2=s4
I rely on my pen to write.
I rely on my typewriter to type.
I rely on my word processor, etc.
I rely on my mind to find the words.


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Posted 20 February 2006 - 12:22 AM

I think that, while we are not totally dependent on technology, we are moving in that direction. Many things are not becoming automated and digitalized: Banking, taxes, voting, etc. We are becoming more and more dependent on technology every single day.

Regardless of supplying computers. Do you think we rely too much on computers? Do you think we will ever trust computers for voting? PoliceBots? PresidentBots? :thumbsup:


I don't think so. But, I don't want to make them mad by denying them jobs, either. Never make anything that could destroy you mad. I sincerly hope we don't turn out like the humans in I, Robot of The Matrix Trilogy. I like living. No, really, I do :flowers: .

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Posted 20 February 2006 - 11:02 AM

i know I am tech. dependent. I noticed a decrease in mental use when computing mathematical equations and increase in use of a calculator, excel, or the similar.

I noticed the younger generation social life has dwindled down in quality, but increased in exposure. Ie: online chatting, forums, clubs, etc
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