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House approves new ISP snooping bill


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#1 elmongo2

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:06 PM

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20084939-281/house-panel-approves-broadened-isp-snooping-bill/

"SUMMARY: By a 19 to 10 vote, a House committee votes to require Internet service providers to keep track of what their users are doing for one year in case it would be useful for future police investigations."

Gotta love to cozy-sounding name of it:

"Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011"

So, I guess that means that if you oppose the government having the ability to monitor anyone's internet usage anytime they want then you support child pornography! :hysterical:

Interesting that Whitney Houston's body is considered much more important to cover instead of this.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 08:44 PM

They would give any name to these types of so called "" protections "" act.

Sopa, Pipa and ACTA are not going well for now... they would do anything to sneak in such bills..

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 11:56 PM

"So, I guess that means that if you oppose the government having the ability to monitor anyone's internet usage anytime they want then you support child pornography!" :hysterical:

Thats how they stupidly think of it YES!!

Edited by boopme, 26 February 2012 - 07:19 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2012 - 06:37 PM

Goverment's ultimate goal has always been " FULL CONTROL ". Something they have been trying but only get's it partially..

In acts of desperation they make these stupid bills.

Edited by Galyn, 28 February 2012 - 06:39 PM.


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:07 AM

That's why a former German minister called everybody using OpenDNS a pedophile... Because clearly if you do not want to be censored by your government, the only obvious conclusion is that you must be a pedophile... :crazy:

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 10:14 PM

If this "protection" will be implemented, can we say that there's still a privacy with our Internet usage? I somewhat not favor on this matter. This is just my opinion though.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 10:07 AM

You notice when you look at the big picture, it goes back to me saying that the government is all about "money and control", NOT "safety and security".

You seem to have figured out the "contol" part. Now, dig a little deeper and you'll see where the "money" part comes into play. ;)

Might wanna start with this......

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/08/the-legislation-that-could-kill-internet-privacy-for-good/242853/

"Blackmailing, misuse of information, hacking"???? Interesting.....

Edited by elmongo2, 01 March 2012 - 10:10 AM.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:52 PM

Ultimately this bill's main function IMO is to fight againts piracy so yes, that is where the "money" part goes..

This has been what SOPA, PIPA and ACTA was all about.


It seems they have the right goal but used the wrong method. Many protest have occured on parts of the world that reportedly " signed " these acts. Some took it back they changed their mind when they saw the " big picture ".


the phrase " " I'm from the government and I'm here to help " I agree on it being the scariest thing you hear. :thumbup2:

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 07:42 PM

Also, keep in mind that the government ruled that corporations now have the same rights as individuals do.
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 06:26 PM

@ myrti,


I somewhat don't agree with you, myrti. Well, of course, everyone needs "privacy", correct? Keeping your internet usage private doesn't mean to say that you're a pedophile. Not all people are engaged with that kind of immature practice.

It sounds like government a paranoid looking over our back which is awkward. Or shall we say, a hacker, that's always watching every move and click we're doing in the net?
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Posted 02 March 2012 - 07:48 PM

black_icon,

you agree with me. I don't agree with my governments view. :wink:

In this particular case the situation is even more absurd, the use of OpenDNS is not going to help you obfuscate your browsing behaviour, it just uses a different DNS Server which offers a quick resolution, better protection against malicious sites and, ironically, also a more pro-active behaviour against child porn and other immorale content that is either not resolved by default or configurable to be not resolved in your OpenDNS profile.

Your ISP however will still get all those IPs you connect to over the day and, if the police wants to, they can request that transcript from your ISP.

The statement that every OpenDNS user is a pedophile to me just showed how little the current government actually knows and understands of the internet, which is frankly frightening since they're passing quite some legislation concerning it.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 08:12 PM

myrti,


Ok, I got you and the government's view towards Internet usage of this time. If they'll really put this bill into implementation, I believe I have nothing to worry about and the government won't scratch its head because we're not friends with the so-called "violations". :P
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 08:08 PM

"The statement that every OpenDNS user is a pedophile to me just showed how little the current government actually knows and understands of the internet, which is frankly frightening since they're passing quite some legislation concerning it."

That's because the lawmakers (well most here in the USA) are not interested in understanding the internet. They're only worried about making sure the lobbyists that are shoving money into their pockets are being kept happy. In fact, there are some lawmakers that even admit that they dont even READ the bills that they push through Congress and state legislatures!
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:28 PM

I agree with you elmongo2. It's very sad to know that even our lawmakers theirselves are not aware of the bills that they've pushed through Congress and state legislatures. I'm wondering if they or they're not considering theirselves as Internet users as well. Well, of course, if they're the one who pushed, made and passed the bill, that doesn't mean to say that they're exempted to follow such bill, aren't they? But unfortunately, they're not able to think of it because again, the "greed" is too much :mellow:
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