Jump to content


 


Register a free account to unlock additional features at BleepingComputer.com
Welcome to BleepingComputer, a free community where people like yourself come together to discuss and learn how to use their computers. Using the site is easy and fun. As a guest, you can browse and view the various discussions in the forums, but can not create a new topic or reply to an existing one unless you are logged in. Other benefits of registering an account are subscribing to topics and forums, creating a blog, and having no ads shown anywhere on the site.


Click here to Register a free account now! or read our Welcome Guide to learn how to use this site.

Photo

Did We Really Land On The Moon?


  • This topic is locked This topic is locked
266 replies to this topic

#1 yano

yano

    I can see what you post!


  • Members
  • 6,469 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Local time:07:19 PM

Posted 12 February 2006 - 11:10 AM

Did we really land on the moon? Do you believe the USA actually landed there?



Against:
Was it hoaxed like some say? If it weren't real, then where did we film it?

Why did the flag wave on the moon, if there is no wind and atmosphere there?

If it is real, why weren't there any stars in the background of the movie?

Why wasn't there a blast creator on the moon from when it landed?

For:
How could the USA possibly even think to fake it?

Wouldn't another country say something if they faked it?

Where was China during the Cold War? <== like how come they didn't really side with one of us, or challenge the other.


What are your opinions?

I bet this is going to be a really controversial topic. :thumbsup: :flowers:

BC AdBot (Login to Remove)

 


#2 yano

yano

    I can see what you post!

  • Topic Starter

  • Members
  • 6,469 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Local time:07:19 PM

Posted 13 February 2006 - 04:57 PM

Conspiracy Theory - Did we land on the moon? (Fox)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1...+on+the+moon%3F

I actually watched it. It's 48minutes long. Makes you start to question NASA...

Edited by yano, 13 February 2006 - 05:16 PM.


#3 ddeerrff

ddeerrff

    Retired


  • Malware Response Team
  • 2,734 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Upper Midwest, US
  • Local time:07:19 PM

Posted 13 February 2006 - 05:54 PM

I can't believe any intellegent person has any doubts about this.

Definitive answer: If we didn't , how did the laser reflector get there?


Why did the flag wave on the moon, if there is no wind and atmosphere there?

What these people show as 'waving' is caused by a mechanical perturbance.

If it is real, why weren't there any stars in the background of the movie?

It's something called limited dynamic range of the film. Why can't you see stars on a sunny day - do you dispute they are there?

Why wasn't there a blast creator on the moon from when it landed?

There was dust moved around. The amount of thrust + the altitude at which the engine cut off was such that it did not make a big hole.
Derfram
~~~~~~

#4 yano

yano

    I can see what you post!

  • Topic Starter

  • Members
  • 6,469 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Local time:07:19 PM

Posted 13 February 2006 - 06:02 PM

I'm not really gonna spit out my opinion until later down the road. I like to watch everyone else battle it out first. :thumbsup:

question :flowers:

how could man survive through all the radiation in earth's protective magnetic field?

#5 legoman786

legoman786

  • Members
  • 684 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tucson, AZ
  • Local time:05:19 PM

Posted 13 February 2006 - 07:38 PM

I can't believe any intellegent person has any doubts about this.

Definitive answer: If we didn't , how did the laser reflector get there?


Why did the flag wave on the moon, if there is no wind and atmosphere there?

What these people show as 'waving' is caused by a mechanical perturbance.

If it is real, why weren't there any stars in the background of the movie?

It's something called limited dynamic range of the film. Why can't you see stars on a sunny day - do you dispute they are there?

Why wasn't there a blast creator on the moon from when it landed?

There was dust moved around. The amount of thrust + the altitude at which the engine cut off was such that it did not make a big hole.


ditto

Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
- Rick Cook


#6 Heretic Monkey

Heretic Monkey

  • Members
  • 1,122 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:NCSU
  • Local time:08:19 PM

Posted 13 February 2006 - 08:59 PM

Everything Dr. Derf^2 said is pretty true.

I saw a documentary on the National Geographic channel where they analyzed and debunked just about every argument the conspiracy theorists have.

The flag was waving due to the flimsy aluminum tubes used to support it. When it was planted, the tubes (both vertical and horizontal to stretch the flag into a rectangle) bounced and jiggled for an extended amount of time due to the lack of atmosphere and air pressure. EDIT: Also notice that the flag doesn't move as the astronauts move by it. No wind = no disturbance in close proximity

The stars don't appear because the surface of the moon is very bright. The camera cannot adjust to the intense brightness of the surface of the moon while also capturing the faint light of the stars. Difference in contrast. It's the same as standing under a street light, looking up, and trying to see stars. Try it yourself.

There was a slight disturbance in dust, however not enough to warrant clouds and plumes.

I hope these explanations are simpler and easier to understand.

Edited by Heretic Monkey, 13 February 2006 - 09:01 PM.


#7 boopme

boopme

    To Insanity and Beyond


  • Global Moderator
  • 73,331 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:NJ USA
  • Local time:08:19 PM

Posted 13 February 2006 - 10:48 PM

The best answers to debunking that conspiracy theory were on a Showtime series called appropriately Bulls**t with Penn & Teller. It prove it was bull.
How do I get help? Who is helping me?For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear....Become a BleepingComputer fan: Facebook

#8 Heretic Monkey

Heretic Monkey

  • Members
  • 1,122 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:NCSU
  • Local time:08:19 PM

Posted 13 February 2006 - 11:25 PM

Penn and Teller did a special? Man, wish i could've caught that one......

#9 cowsgonemadd3

cowsgonemadd3

    Feed me some spyware!


  • Banned
  • 4,557 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Local time:08:19 PM

Posted 14 February 2006 - 12:14 PM

Of course we landed on the moon. And I heard we are about to do it again and even land on mars one day in the future!

Edited by cowsgonemadd3, 14 February 2006 - 12:15 PM.


#10 rms4evr

rms4evr

  • Members
  • 812 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:East Coast
  • Local time:08:19 PM

Posted 14 February 2006 - 12:25 PM

*sigh* :thumbsup:

Sorry, I am just kinda sick of this debate...are people (none of you, I'm talking about the conspiracy theory nuts) sooo bored/paranoid that they have to question something like landing on the moon?

I agree with ddeerrff and Heretic Monkey completly. :flowers:

Also, the moon landings cost a lot of money. Why would NASA take billions of dollars of taxpayer money and fake a moon landing? I'd rather spend the cash on actually going there! Wouldn't you?

#11 jgweed

jgweed

  • Members
  • 28,473 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Chicago, Il.
  • Local time:07:19 PM

Posted 14 February 2006 - 12:39 PM

If one applies a very high, and completely unrealistic, criteria for truth to any occasion, one is bound to be uncertain.Even Aristotle understood that one should not expect the same degree of certainty in different kinds of knowledge.
Any event, if one picks and chooses small pieces of it but ignores the whole that "hangs together" one can find "reasons" for doubt. There are indeed, no facts but only interpretations of facts. And one can choose the most high fantastical interpretations, or one can choose to use common sense and accepted methods within each field.
Regards,
John

Edited by jgweed, 14 February 2006 - 12:39 PM.

Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one should be silent.

#12 Scarlett

Scarlett

    Bleeping Diva


  • Members
  • 7,479 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:As always I'm beside myself ;)
  • Local time:07:19 PM

Posted 14 February 2006 - 12:47 PM

Yes, I do believe we did land on the moon.
And ddeerrff thank you for your intelligent and clear explanation.

Conspiracy Theories do just as they are intended to do.
Convince those reading/hearing them that they are the one and only truth.
It is so easy to fall into their trap.
One must remain rational, or otherwise one will be believing everything one hears.
And there are many crazy theories floating around out there.
Before you know it you will have trouble separating fact from fiction. :thumbsup:

Edited by Scarlett, 14 February 2006 - 12:49 PM.

Posted Image

#13 yano

yano

    I can see what you post!

  • Topic Starter

  • Members
  • 6,469 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Local time:07:19 PM

Posted 16 February 2006 - 08:52 AM

I agree. I believe we did land on the moon. I just think that if one looks hard enough they can find something to dispute almost anything.

Heck if I really wanted to I could say this site is a conpsiracy. :thumbsup: It's really helping the spyware indutsry. :flowers:

#14 Heretic Monkey

Heretic Monkey

  • Members
  • 1,122 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:NCSU
  • Local time:08:19 PM

Posted 16 February 2006 - 12:00 PM

Why, yano, what ever gave you that idea.......? Of course there's nothing wrong with this site....... It's completely safe to list any and all aspects of your computer, network settings, ip addy, spyware/adware programs, virus programs..... :mello: :mello: :mello:

Oh crap, they found me out.......... RUN!!!

#15 yano

yano

    I can see what you post!

  • Topic Starter

  • Members
  • 6,469 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Local time:07:19 PM

Posted 21 February 2006 - 06:14 PM

Ok :thumbsup:

my ip is 127.0.... wait a second?




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users