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#1 StrategyGamer

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 03:43 PM

Hello Everyone,

In 2007 I bought my first gaming rig from Alienware.com. I bought a Alienware Area-51 7500 R-5 rig. A couple months ago my NVIDIA GeForce 8600GTS 256MB PCI-E graphics processor died on me. Now I am looking to get back into my computer gaming and I need a new graphics card! I am looking for something that is better than my previous graphics card (stated above) and that will be compatible with my system. To anyone who is wondering; I specifically want to play the game Shogun 2: Total War. My full specs on my rig are as followed:
EVGA NForce 680 SLI MB REV D Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor (on my invoice it specifically says; CDCR,E6750,2660/1333, 4M, 2C Processor. Not sure what this means but theres a sticker on my rig that says Intel Core 2 Duo)
1 GB of Qimonda DDR2 PC2-6400 Jedec STD Memory (Really only (2) 512 MB cards)
Seagate 250GB Sata 7200 RPM 16MB Cache System Drive
LG 20X Dual-Layer DVD Re-Writer NON-LIG Optical Drives
Integrated High-Def Audio NVIDIA C55-MB Sound Card
NVIDIA GeForce 8600GTS 256MB PCI-E Graphics Processor
Microsoft Windows XP Pro COA Operating System.

Also, it says I have a GX2 G80 Dual Slot Card Keeper Graphics Processor. Not sure really what this is but I figured I put it up. Also, I have a 700 Watt OEM ATX PSU REV2 Power Supply if that information is needed.

I hope some of you can help me here! It is much needed!

(PS- To anyone who notices I accidentally posted this under the internal components forum. My apologies!)

Edited by StrategyGamer, 14 January 2012 - 03:48 PM.


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Posted 14 January 2012 - 06:39 PM

Hello, first off, I think the second processor (GX2 G80 Dual Slot Card Keeper Graphics Processor) might have been on the motherboard (I don't know, but that's what I think). and, secondly, what's your budget?

A decent card for $200 is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121446.

(not sure if it's compatable though, check the specs)

Edited by Mr.Ninja, 14 January 2012 - 06:43 PM.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 06:54 PM

That motherboard will take almost any PCI-E graphics card, however, your Core 2 Duo CPU will be a limiting factor in terms of a bottleneck. You will also not be able to use DirectX 10 and 11 due to being on Windows XP. In terms of your power supply, you can use almost any graphics card. Same thing with the EVGA 680i motherboard, I believe almost any LGA 775 CPU can be used except the 45nm quad core CPU's. Those motherboards are quite old these days.

To get the most out of an upgrade, you may want to consider upgrading more than just the GPU. How much are you willing to spend?

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 10:43 PM

Money isn't a limiting factor, whatever the price is, it should be ok. But I only want to replace the graphics processor, I need a video card that will fit with what I have, but is better than my previous one. If that is possible.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 11:03 PM

Okay, well another better one is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161382 for $350

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130587 for $500
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Posted 14 January 2012 - 11:09 PM

The cards Mr Ninja suggested are now old. The 7000 series Radeon graphics card has been released, it is the 7970. It is possible that the card won't fit since high end cards are generally long in length.

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#7 StrategyGamer

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 10:32 AM

Do you think any of you could provide me with a list of graphics cards that would be compatible to my system?

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 01:23 PM

Would the NVIDIA EVGA GeForce 8800 Ultra be compatible with my system? ( It was made in 2007 )

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 01:27 PM

Actually no, would the NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT be compatible?

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 08:02 PM

Yes that card is compatible but it is outdated and getting harder to find. Also the card itself is roughly about 9 inches.

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 08:25 PM

Any Radeon 6000 or 7000 series should work IF your case can hold them. If you're gaming and going for Radeon cards, the AMD numbering is helpful. Starting at the 6000 series the x9xx line is the high-end performance card and the x8xx is the mid-range. If you get any of the high-end cards, your CPU will be bottlenecking the cards performance as it cannot feed information to the GPU fast enough. A more cost effective solution would be the Radeon 6850 or 6870 as those aren't as fast, and thus, aren't as limited with the bottleneck. Herein is another issue, are you going to be doing more upgrades soon or are you going to keep the rest of the computer the same for several more years? If you are going to be upgrading sooner to a quad core, then the high-end card would be even better then. You are also very limited with XP as some of the newer cards selling points will work mostly with DirectX 10 and 11, which are only on Windows Vista and 7. That's not to say the cards aren't effective under stale and old Windows XP.

Here's some cards:

Very High End (The 7950 should be out in a couple weeks): DIAMOND 7970PE53G Radeon HD 7970
High End: DIAMOND 6970PE52G Radeon HD 6970
Mid Range: SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 08:58 PM

I'm currently looking at the NVIDIA GTX 560 Ti and the NVIDIA GTX 580. I contacted my Alienware agent and they pointed me to these two which they said will be compatible for my system. Any thoughts? Also, would it be useful to buy two graphics cards since my rig can hold two? Or is there another limiting factor with my operating system and/or other components that would render two graphics cards underused and ineffective?

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Posted 15 January 2012 - 09:41 PM

If your Alienware agent says those 2 cards would work then the 7970 will work too and its way faster then the GTX560 TI and GTX580. Well it depends on how good that Alienware power supply is and if a second is really needed but i would just get fastest single graphics card available which is the 7970 and give it shot which should be fine.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 09:09 AM

Keep in mind that Alienware is mostly an Nvidia shop, so they are going to almost always suggest a GeForce card. The GeForce 560 Ti is very similar to the Radeon 6870 in terms of performance in many games. The Radeon 6950, 6970, 7970 and the upcoming 7950 will outperform it. Your rig can hold two cards, however, not all games scale well with multiple GPU's and thus it is best to use high end cards, such as the Radeon 6900 or 7900 series. The GTX 570 and 580 cards are being easily beaten by the Radeon 7970, which is either at the same price point as a GTX 580 or within $50 of it. With the nForce 680i chipsets, they are limited to PCI-E X8 on both slots if SLI is used. The PCI-E X16 slots are version one, I believe, and the chipset is limited to SLI not Crossfire. The nForce chipsets were always very temperamental and glitch-y, so I wouldn't invest too heavily in them, one good upgrade max. Nvidia has gotten out of the chipset business, so you won't find nForce any more, the main selling point of that chipset, the SLI, is baked into AMD's 900 series chipsets and most current Intel chipsets.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 02:05 PM

I see, however, I am only going to playing the following games most likely: Total War Series Games from the Creative Assembly, Lord of the Rings Battle for Middle Earth (relatively outdated but I love them), and the Spore series. Also, I'd like to save as much money as I can in the process so it may not be 100% necessary for me to buy the extreme high end graphics card since I'm only gonna be running moderately stressful games on the PC. What would you suggest?




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