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#1 Chief5000

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 02:10 PM

hello, i am trying to put together a gaming computer for gaming and such, any advice you can give me on these parts will be greatly apprecited also if u could tell me if thier compatable it would help, i have done a few hours of reasearch and here is what i came up with.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131754

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130604

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103961

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 06:52 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Store/Promotion.aspx?storeid=33&name=DIY-PC-Combos&cm_sp=Pillar2-_-BuildYourOwn-_-http%3a%2f%2fpromotions.newegg.com%2fhomepage%2fpillar%2fhomepage2011%2fbnr_lifestyle_combo.jpg

Have you looked at this Newegg page?

They do have kits of parts for a discount.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 07:31 PM

Be careful with DIY build kits with discounts, often, portions of the hardware are substandard or otherwise mediocre. What is your budget and what games are you going to be playing?

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 12:10 AM

Don't go cheap on the power supply, it will bite you in the butt later on. EVGA recommends a 700W power supply with a 50 amp 12V rail(if single rail, 30amps if multiple rails), especially if you are thinking of overclocking.

I personally go with PSU's that have multiple rails 30+amps per rail.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 06:20 AM

That Corsair unit has 50+ amps on the 12V+. It will do just fine.

If you do go NVidia, look at the GTX 560 Ti - 448 core models if you can swing the extra cash.

Was going to recommend a WD Black 1TB drive till I saw the price on it. Ouch.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 11:00 AM

Be careful with DIY build kits with discounts, often, portions of the hardware are substandard or otherwise mediocre. What is your budget and what games are you going to be playing?


True. OTOH some are OK. Just don't go super cheap.

For example this one looked OK to me. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.791304

1x Corsair Special Edition White Graphite Series 600T Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (Model:CC600TWM-WHT) $169.99

1x GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (Model:GA-Z68XP-UD3P) $174.99

1x XFX HD-697A-CNFC Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity (Model:HD-697A-CNFC) $349.99

1x CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750M 750W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular High Performance Power Supply (Model:TX750M) $129.99

1x Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I72600K
Model:BX80623I72600K) $319.99

1x CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 15000) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1866C9 (Model:CMZ8GX3M2A1866C9) $79.99

1x Corsair Force Series 3 CSSD-F60GB3A-BK 2.5" 60GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (Model:CSSD-F60GB3A-BK) $99.99

1x Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (Model:ST31000524AS) $134.99

1x CORSAIR H80 (CWCH80) High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (Model:CWCH80) $91.99
Combined Total: $1,551.91
Combo Discounts: -$142.92
Combo Price: $1,408.99

I would probably add a 160Gb SSD Boot drive and repurpose the 60Gb.

My I7 930 is starting to feel like it's due to be replaced and be repurposed to different use by a 2600k or better . SO I've been looking.

and of course always read the user reviews.

Your thoughts

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 11:09 AM

That Corsair unit has 50+ amps on the 12V+. It will do just fine.

If you do go NVidia, look at the GTX 560 Ti - 448 core models if you can swing the extra cash.

Was going to recommend a WD Black 1TB drive till I saw the price on it. Ouch.


Yup they are are a bit pricy right now. Might as well spring for the extra and go 160GB SSD if it is a gaming computer.

As I see it modern processors are now fast enough that the weakest link in performance is the hard drive. In the Pentium or Pentium 2 / 3 days the processor was a slow spot now it's the HDD. IMO of course.

I also leave the pagefile on the SSD for performance. Of course my 300Gb SSD is less than 1/3 full. That gives plenty of room for Trim, and wear leveling and should contribute to good longevity.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 11:31 AM

Personally I would stay away from larger drives, there are nothing wrong with them but if I am going to have a TB of storage space I would rather RAID it, to get increased performance. Another thing, those Bulldozer processors are still "new" so I would stay away from them, back when the Phenom II just came out I was looking to build a system with them, but boy was I glad I didn't have the money. They were so new that they hadn't caught all the bugs, now they have all the bugs worked out and the Phenom II works great. So I would stay away from the "cutting edge" because its very possible you may be the one being cut!

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 11:55 AM

Chase_Wheeler, It is just an opinion of course however My belief is that striping the drives doubles the chance of failure since if either drive dies that array is broken. Raid 5 would be different.

IMO durability is very important. That is why when I decided to give SSD drives a try my first criteria was durability. So I went Intel, they aren't the fastest (Sandforce controller), or prettiest (Samsung) but had a good rep from users. OCZ at that time had terrible user reviews and tons of problems from reading their forums, That has apparently changed now that they finally got a decent firmware out for their drives.

Durability is also the same reason I bought larger than needed SSD drives. Over-provisioning seems to help with drive life as it gives both Trim and Wear leveling more room to work.

Agreed on waiting for the bugs to get killed off. Look at the Intel I7 chipset / Motherboards that had to be recalled for SATA controller problems.

If worried about drive durability I would go raid5 or mirroring at a minimum.

Edited by rotor123, 14 January 2012 - 11:58 AM.

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 12:34 PM

rotor 123, that is a very good point. I assumed that if someone was to implement RAID they would do some research first. Maybe I should put something like that in my signature, but after researching RAID it would be up to the user to decide if they want to go for blazing speed (RAID 0) or better speed with dependability (RAID 5).




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