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#1 HelpMeSaveMyOldComputer!

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 02:50 PM

Okay here's the whole story.

We have this 7 yr. old computer. When new it was fine. I of course was younger and more computer illiterate than i am now...so it accumluated excess files and virses and such. Then it started crashing and stuff so we took it to a friend who fix it enough so we could at least start up and go online. He had to start over since it was so messed up. I don't really know what he did but he did something good. Well, it started t o go slow again. We've checked for viruses and spyware but there were none. So my dad installed XP Home edition that extends the Windows 98 that was already installed. and that sped it up a bit. enough that the internet pages loaded much quicker. Now...who knows why it is slow again. I've checked the processes that were running and they all looked like nescessary processes and the CPU Usage is almost always at 100%. There doesn't seem to be any viruses or spyware...according to the Sept.2005 version of Norton. Right now I can't live update the Norton because the computer doesn't connect to the internet...it does but the Netzero loading screen dosen't go away. and It seems to be working hard to get through it's tasks. Should I unistall XP and go back to 98? Will it run better? I just need it to hold school programs and probably connect to the internet. I'm not at home right now and I forgot what processor it has. I will post again if you need to know the processor and memory it has.

well I hope you guys can help.

Thankyou! for reading and replying!!

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 03:14 PM

Seven years is a long time in the life of a computer. It sounds like you have some virus/spyware issues, but hardware problems could also be contributing to lack of speed.

What processor do you have? How much ram and how big a hard drive?

At this point, if you can't get on the Internet, I would recommend backing up any files you want to save and reinstalling windows including formating the hard drive.

If you only have 128 to 256 meg of ram, I would also recommend adding memory, that will make a big difference.

We can help you get this computer working again, but you need to decide what you want out of it and how much longer you hope to utilize it. A computer from 1999 is going to have a limited life and if you look are looking a spending $100-$200 then you are looking at a significant percentage of the cost of a new low end computer.

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 04:26 PM

First off you are much better off with XP than 98. Second like frankie eluded to. POST your specs

Brand and Model (If applies, could be gernric)
CPU (P-I, P-II, P-III, AMD,..?)
Amount of RAM?
Hard drive and how much Free and Used space you have?
Video Card?

Start wth running Disk Cleanup Aand defrag.
Clean out you cookied, tmp files, and history (Interent Tools in IE)
Lets see if that helps any.
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Posted 06 February 2006 - 07:51 PM

It has
AMD-K6™ 3D Processor
150 MHZ
184 MB of RAM

Is the hard drive infomation available when you scroll over the C drive in My Computer? Well here is what it says... Free space: 2.51 GB
Total space 5.99 GB

I don't know how to get the video card infomation.

Well...if it is useless to try to save it then...what should I do with it?

Thankyou for your help

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 08:04 PM

im trying to defrag it at the moment.

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 08:06 PM

It told me

You do not need to defragment this volume

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 08:21 PM

im defraging it anyway...but it looks like its gonna take a long while

just in case you are wondering...i'm online withmy compaq pesario

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 08:41 PM

It has
AMD-K6™ 3D Processor
150 MHZ
184 MB of RAM

Is the hard drive infomation available when you scroll over the C drive in My Computer? Well here is what it says... Free space: 2.51 GB
Total space 5.99 GB

I don't know how to get the video card infomation.

Well...if it is useless to try to save it then...what should I do with it?

Thankyou for your help

**Racheal**


IMHO, i think youre better off trashing the old thing... the most you can slavage from it is your hard drive which contains all your important documents, etc. but if you really want to keep it, use it as a coffee table.... :thumbsup:

Edited by legoman786, 06 February 2006 - 08:42 PM.

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 09:02 PM

A few comments:
"150 MHZ" - I hope that's not your processor speed????

"184 MB of RAM" - as others have said you really need to put more RAM in to run XP properly.
Would I be right in thinking you have onboard graphics with 8MB allocated to it? (Trying to work out what RAM sticks you have in your PC) Aim at getting 512MB in your PC, depending on the motherboard that may not be possible.

Norton antivirus (2005) - uninstall it and replace it with AVG - it's free and it's not such a resource hog.
AVG Free

These days you need a load of anti-spyware and anti-trojan software on your PC to keep the malware out of your system when you connect to the internet. This is my recommendation:

Do you have a range of anti-spyware installed? If not download and update all of the following:Reboot your computer in Safe Mode and run the anti-virus scan and all the anti-spyware scans there.
If you are not sure how to boot in Safe Mode there is a tutorial here: Safe Mode


You should have Win XP at the SP2 level for added security.

Check out the cost of a recycled PC in your locality, it may cost less than getting your own working.

hth :thumbsup:

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Posted 08 February 2006 - 06:25 PM

ok then, my dad says he'll see it he can sell it...or just put it up in the closet for now.

If I put it back to Win 98 will it work better???

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Posted 08 February 2006 - 08:11 PM

Download Puppy Linux I have see it run on as sloww as a 133mhz 64mb RAM. It's only a 60mb download. You will have to burn it to CD. If you try it let me know. I will take you through the process. No big deal.
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Posted 08 February 2006 - 08:39 PM

The AMD K6 processor is roughly the equivalant of a PII-400. Yes 98 will run better but you can still use XP if you add Ram.

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Posted 08 February 2006 - 10:47 PM

It is hardly worth buying a new XP license - the computer has no value.

Reload the op system that it came with if your op system is corrupted and malfunctioning.

If you do not have a software firewall get one of the free ones:
Software firewalls with freeware versions
Free Zone Alarm SE: http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/

http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/comp...;NONE?lid=ho_za

Sygate: http://www.sygate.com/

Antivirus programs - freeware (you can only use one resident anti-virus program on your computer. More than one will conflict)

AVG: http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_index.php

Avast Anti-virus freeware
http://www.komando.com/bestshareware.asp


Anti-malware freeware (You can run as many of these as you wish. Generally there is no conflict between these and you should always run several)

*AdAware SE: http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/

and the add-ons for Adaware: (What are add-ons for Ad-Aware, what do they do, and how do you use them?

Add-ons are designed to enhance and extend the protection that Ad-Aware provides for your system. They aren't strictly necessary to effectively using Ad-Aware, but they can add an extra layer of defense against privacy and security intrusions. They can stop potentially dangerous Windows services or provide additional information about suspicious files or activities that may be helpful for the user, IT professionals, and Lavasoft.

Add-ons for Ad-Aware are also available and come in two varieties: tools (they can be used without performing a scan), and extensions (used once a scan has been finished, although generally not for use with Registry entries).
Current add-ons available at no charge from Lavasoft are:

Tweak SE
HexDump
FileSpecs*
LSP Explorer
Messenger-Control
OE/W Messengerctrl
VX2 Cleaner
http://www.lavasoft.com/

Installing a add-on is simple, after you've downloaded a add-on and closed Ad-Aware, extract the installation executable from the archive and run the downloaded file. The installer will handle finding your Ad-Aware add-in folder and automatically install it for you. The next time you run Ad-Aware, click on the "Add-ons" option to use your installed add-ons.


*Spybot S&D: http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html


Microsoft Antispyware Beta: (Win 2000 and XP only) http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/s...re/default.mspx

SpywareBlaster: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html

Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (Win XP and Win 2000):
http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx

AČ - Free from http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4281.html . Run it, click Search for Updates, then click Scan.

Also, run some of the following web based scans:
Web based online Antivirus and anti-malware scans: (these can be run regardless of whatever else you are using. You must use Internet Explorer to run these.)

Kaspersky Anti-Virus Web Scanner
http://www.kaspersky.com/service?chapter=161739400#betatest


Panda Activescan
http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/co...n_principal.htm

Trend Micro antivirus and malware scan:
http://housecall-beta.trendmicro.com/en/st...orp.asp?id=scan

Etrust Anti-virus web scanner
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx.

online trojan scans here -
http://scan.sygatetech.com/pretrojanscan.html

http://windowsecurity.com/trojanscan

Windows Security Trojanscan
http://www.windowsecurity.com/trojanscan/trojanscan.asp


Don't spend a lot of money on that old computer.
You can buy a new computer with current technology and with XP on it for $300.

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Posted 09 February 2006 - 12:32 AM

You may also want to turn off the visual effects XP has turned on by default. Heck, I have them turned off on the rig in my sig since I don't really care for the look of XP anyway.
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Posted 09 February 2006 - 01:09 AM

True - loose the wallpaper, the screensaver, adjust your video card down a level, drop back on "effects" and your computer will speed up.




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