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#1 mycrors4

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 01:35 AM

hey guys, as you can see im new here.
ive been wanting to build a gaming computer for quite a while now, and i have done TONS of research on many things such as grpahics cards, cpus, motherboards, rams.. etc.. u know the drill lol
i have a list of everything i need, but i need some advice from guys with experience, to maybe improve my set-up? or fix mistakes ive made?

here's the list:
Asus crosshair V forumla AM3+ AMD 990FX - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131735 << need advice for this one
MSI R5770 Hawk Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit (2 - running in crossfire) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127490 << need advice for this one
antec earthwatts 650w - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044
amd phenom II X6 1090t black edition 3.2ghz - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849 << need advice for this one
SAMSUNG 470 Series MZ-5PA128B/AM 2.5" 128GB (OS and games would go onto the ssd) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147125 << need advice for this one
western digital caviar black 500gb 7200rpm 6gb/s 3.5" bare drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136795
g.skill ripjaws 6gb ram pc3 12800 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231304
LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
ZALMAN CNPS9500A-LED 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118223

and finally the case
i had originally planned to run all this in an antec three hundred, as it is a really good case for the price, but then battlefield 3 came out, which means.. i wanna run ultra settings LOL aka: more heat
i need advice on a REALLY good cooling mid tower case, id prefer it to stay around the $50 range, but im willing to go up to $100ish
space is also an issue, i want it all to fit in the case lol

for the overall build, i wanna stay around $1200
i have a monitor, keyboard, sound system, and mouse, i just need the tower
any and all help and advice is appreciated :D

Edited by mycrors4, 21 December 2011 - 01:35 AM.


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Posted 21 December 2011 - 10:16 AM

Random stuff:

Memeory: You need a 2X4gig setup (for starters), not a 3 channel (3 channel is for i7 9XX/X58 boards) Maybe:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007611%20600006069%20600006127&IsNodeId=1&name=DDR3%201600%20%28PC3%2012800%29&Order=RATING&Pagesize=20

G-Skill is still my go-to RAM at this point, but nothing wrong with Corsair/Kingston/Mushkin/Patriot.

Video Card(s): I don't really know if I would go for a Crossfire setup in a new build now. Tomorrow (22 December) NDAs lift for the 7XXX generation of video cards. Lot's of new info will be floating aroung. Generally, I would tend to go for one more powerful card vs a crossfire setup (microstutter and performance overhead). 5XXX series cards were not nearly as good in Crossfire as the 6XXX series are/were. You might very well be able to walk out with a single 78XX, that spanks a Crossfire 5770 setup, for less money.

Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099 Not as pretty, but damned effective.

Case: I picked up one of these for cheap at Newegg awhile back for a client build, impressed:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139008 Lots of other choices out there, to each his own. The plus on that case is that it will fit an H100 in the top if liquid cooling is desired. Not totally enamored with the looks, but it is very well thought out, and cost $69 or $79 at the time.

Here is where I take the flack (zipped up, vest on). If I was building a gaming rig at this point, I would go Intel all the way. A 2500K on a Z68 board, that will later support an Ivy Bridge upgrade, would be at the top of my list. I use AMD when I build econorigs, and they work great for that. If I am going to the trouble to really build a rig that has to last, and I want the quickest, most overclockable setup around, then I am going Intel.

I am a retired Ford tech. Next to Fords, any computer is a piece of cake. (The cake, its not a lie)

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 06:22 PM

My two cents are...

Motherboard: You really don't need this, I would go for the ASUS Sabertooth 990FX AM3+ AMD 990FX, it is less expensive and does the same thing. If you are going to do Crossfire, use an FX-based motherboard, otherwise, a 970 board would be more cost effective.

Video Card: I echo what dpunisher has said. As a general rule, it is best to use two high end cards for Crossfire rather than two mid or lower end cards. Not all games scale 100% with Crossfire, therefore, you see more benefit by using a single, or double, high-end cards. If the game doesn't scale well at all or, not at all, you still get great performance with a single card.

PSU: I would get something better if you are going for Crossfire. The SILVERSTONE ST75F-P 750W or the ENERMAX NAXN 82+ ENM750AWT 750W.

RAM: AMD is dual channel, you should be using either two or four sticks. I would get one or two Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB DDR3-1600 RAM kits.

CPU: This is a thorny subject. For games, any quad core over 2.8GHz. would do well. For everything else, that's where we kind of go off the rails. Intel currently has the faster processors, especially at the high end. But their platforms don't have backwards compatibility and are changed constantly, so you may quickly find yourself with a CPU and motherboard nearing end-of-life (EOL) sooner. AMD usually maintains backwards compatibility but has weaker processors and their platforms last a bit longer. Ever since the Bulldozer sh**storm (Overhype and a slight, but scalable, improvement over previous K10 CPU's) AMD seriously needs to step up. Hopefully, the move to TSMC and Bulldozer revisions will make them more competitive. Both Intel and AMD would do well in a setup meant for gaming since games are mostly GPU bound.

SSD: Samsung does make good drives, as does Intel.

Optical Drives: You don't need two, just one DVD burner.

CPU Cooler: I have something very similar to this from Xigmatek: XIGMATEK Gaia SD1283. It's quiet and moves air efficiently.

Case: Here's where function and form collide. If you use Crossfire or high-end GPU's, you really should use a full ATX case due to thermal issues. I would go for the NZXT ZERO 2 Crafted Series CS-NT-ZERO-2, it's inexpensive and has plenty of room.

You also need an operating system.

Edited by DJBPace07, 21 December 2011 - 06:26 PM.

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 06:55 PM

thanks for the replies guys!
did a bit more reading, i think im gonna go with the 2500k and a z68 mobo
a lot of people are saying they've overclocked the 2500k to 4.4-4.6 under stable conditions. i wont be going this high, but ill probably jump upto around 4.1ish?
for the mobo, ive been an asus fan for a while, but if you guys have any better recommendations(preferably cheaper too lol) it'd be helpful
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131791 i dont feel like dropping $270 on a mobo

for the video cards, i decided to just skip the crossfire and wait for some reviews on the 7xxx series, and hopefully ill end up with a 7xxx if not, it'll probably be a 6970

as for the case, i wanna keep it a mid tower mostly because of the height, full towers start to create space issues for me

for OS, ill be running win7

Edited by mycrors4, 21 December 2011 - 07:26 PM.


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Posted 21 December 2011 - 08:10 PM

If your not gonna do crossfire, then this power supply should do and it saves you $10.

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 08:26 AM

If you're not overclocking, you don't really need the 2500K. The 2500 (No K) will do just as well for less.

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 11:47 AM

If your not gonna do crossfire, then this power supply should do and it saves you $10.


Nope, avoid this. The last thing he needs is an average, dual rail PSU.

Stick to Corsair, Seasonic and XFX, as they are the very best for a reason. High quality components, powerful single rail, high efficiency and power quality.
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Posted 22 December 2011 - 06:27 PM

Enermax is usually a very good brand, along side Corsair, XFX, Silverstone, PC Power, Sparkle Computer, and Seasonic. All Corsair units use a single +12V Rail, not that it really matters very much. This page at JonnyGURU explains the +12V rails quite nicely.

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 11:22 PM

I have a silverstome psu in my rig and it hasn't skipped a beat or faltered yet I love it although I would recommend them due to the high price point...if I would have known what I know now about computers back when I built mine back then I would have gone with a coarsair for cost-to-benefit ratio silverstones are very high quality but not worth the hefty price jump IMO

Edited by Blaze413, 22 December 2011 - 11:23 PM.


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Posted 26 December 2011 - 01:42 AM

the main reason i chose the earthwatts is cause i can get a good deal on it from a guy i know
i am going to overclock, so ill be getting the 2500k
for the video card, ive decided on a single ati 6970, for the case, i went to fry's and found the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139008 and i liked how there was extra space inside before of the flared out sides, which means more of a chance ill have everything fit lol
on new egg, as it stands right now, its about $1300, but im going to search online for better deals on everything, and hopefully save a good $200-$300
not to mention, newegg eamils you when they have a special on a product in your wishlist

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 03:28 AM

Then if your gonna get good deal for that power supply, you should be fine.

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