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new hard drive causing nonsystem disk or disk error


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#1 eboknight

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 09:51 AM

I started with a 40 gig for my primary drive
When I install the new western digital WD2500BB 250 gig hard drive I first I get:

CD-rom : Sony DVD-Rom DDU1615
no IDE fixed disk present
press F1 to save

Then
Disk: 40.0 GB E@@G@4
CD-rom : Sony DVD-Rom DDU1615
press F1 to save

Then
Disk: 250 GB WDC WD2500BB-14RDA0
CD-rom : Sony DVD-Rom DDU1615
press F1 to save

Then I get the error message:
non system disk or disk error
replace and strike any key when ready

I think I need to format my new hard drive but I can't figure out how to get that far.
Any help will be greatly appreciated I'm trying to upgrade this PC for my kids.

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#2 bludgard

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 10:10 AM

If you would provide the make and modle of the machine to be upgraded, I will try to assist. It could be as easy as configuring a BIOS setting.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 12:18 PM

Could also mean jumper settings(Cable, Master, Slave), BIOS not in default settings or drain CMOS battery.

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#4 eboknight

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 01:48 PM

The label on top of the case says its a HP Compaq d530-cmt It looks exactly like mine with different insides, mine is a HP dc7600 mini tower just in case you can't pull up info from the first set of numbers I gave you I know you can pull information on mine and it should be similar to my kids PC. By the way I am running windows XP pro. that I just installed, the computer is completely clean, in fact I still have to down load a couple driver like for the upgraded graphics card.
Thanks for your help if you need any more information please ask.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 03:22 PM

Hello eboknight,

How to Enter BIOS Setup:
  • At the blue HP screen, hit F10 to enter BIOS.
  • Arrow down to "Set Defaults and Exit." Press F10 to save and exit.
  • The computer will reboot.

If the computer doesn't hold the defaults, then it could be a cable settings issue or a dead CMOS battery like jhayz said.

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#6 bludgard

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 06:59 PM

I started with a 40 gig for my primary drive
When I install the new western digital WD2500BB 250 gig hard drive

Could you please provide a screenshot of Disk Mangement?
See if you can
initialize the disc drive.

Thankz

EDIT: Are you trying to install XP afresh on the WD HDD?

Edited by bludgard, 11 December 2011 - 07:02 PM.


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Posted 11 December 2011 - 07:56 PM

I think the new hard drive is out of the package and has not been formatted and Windows reinstalled yet.

Please tell us the make/model of the system and how you installed the drive.
In other words, we need to make sure that the jumper settings and cabling are correct.

The new drive is obviosly an IDE ddrive as it replaced a 40 gig.
I doubt that a drive of that size would be SATA

Do you have a method to reisntall WIndows?
Whether from a restoration disk set or a genuine Windows cd?

Edited by Eyesee, 11 December 2011 - 07:58 PM.

In the beginning there was the command line.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 05:14 PM

I tried the set defaults and exit, I get the same error message non system disk or disk error.
I am installing the new 250 gig in addition to the 40 gig I have windows installed on the 40 gig from a genuine windows disk and it works fine when the 250 gig is not hooked up.
I am working with a HP d530-cmt.
I can not give you a screen shot when the new drive is hooked up I can't get that far.
I hooked the new drive up to the next spot on the IDE ribbon the jumpers are what they were set at when it came out of the box and could very well be wrong.
Thanks for your input, hope this information helps.

Edited by eboknight, 12 December 2011 - 05:16 PM.


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Posted 12 December 2011 - 07:52 PM

I would try removing the 40GB drive and just leave the 250GB drive in there. You should then be able to boot from the Windows DVD and install a fresh copy to the drive. Once installed you can slave your old drive back to get your data. Put the 40GB drive on the middle connector on the ide ribbon cable and set the jumper to CS (Cable select)on the 40GB drive if you have problems.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 08:18 PM

i agree... you can try cable select on both drive's jumpers. you can keep the 40gb drive as a slave, and image the large drive onto the smaller (with acronis), *after* you copy the data from the 40 to the 250 drive. then you can boot from the smaller if the larger ever messes up.

Edited by cogs10, 12 December 2011 - 08:32 PM.


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Posted 12 December 2011 - 09:06 PM

I want to make sure we are clear about the basic configuration.
Is your intent to leave the existing 40 gig in place with Windows on it and then use the new 250 as additional storage?

If that is the case you can almost bet that the jumpers are wrong.
You want to jumper the 40 as master and the 250 as slave.
Its safe to assume that the new drive came jumpered as master.
So, therefore the system wont boot because they both are set that way.

I would not use the cable select setting.
I always physically jumper the drives as master and slave.

Then, when the system boots, go into disk management and initialize the new disk.
That should be all you need to do.

Only tool you might need is a pair of tweezers to switch the jumper settings.
The drives should have a diagram showing the correct position for the jumpers.
In the beginning there was the command line.

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 10:08 PM

250 GB WDC WD2500BB-14RDA0

Is this the exact model? http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/11632_div/11632_div.html
According to the hard drive detail, maximum is also on 160 gig. But anyway, follow as suggested.

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 12:34 AM

Ut oh! Now it appears we may have a BIOS hard drive limitation maybe.
Thanks for that info jhayz.

Try it and see what happens set to the way I described.
In the beginning there was the command line.

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 06:38 AM

I pulled the new drive set the jumper to the CS setting and now its up and running.
It seems that it reads the full capacity of the drive no capacity limit that I can see.
Thanks for all your help my kids will be very great full.

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 02:56 PM

Thanks for letting us no that you got it working!

Good Job :thumbup2:
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