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#1 gvfc2

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:38 PM

im looking for a new motherboard and cpu. right now i have amd m2n sli deluxe and cpu is amd 64 x2 6400+. what can i get thats better than these but under 100$ if i can.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 12:52 AM

what video card and memory are you running? you can find a AM2+ boards out there with quad cores, but keep in mind, ddr2 is old, so if you want a new motherboard, chances are its going to use DDR3 requiring a memory upgrade as well. If you want something with a warranty that will work with ddr2, you can get this recertified or something similer. You should be able to get any phenom II with a 95 watt rating or lower on it I believe, but Im not sure since Biostar no longer has a list up of supported CPUs. You may be able to find used motherboards off of ebay or pricewatch.com as well.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:10 AM

im running ddr2 with a nvidia geforce 8500. im looking to upgrade so i can play games and run vmware at the same time. as of right now i have to play skyrim at absolute lowest setting by its self.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 10:19 AM

The 6400 isnt actually a bad cpu, though it is older. I think if it were me I would upgrade the cpu and the video card. I would check out your video card manufacturers website and see if your board will support a quad core, and try a nvidia 260 or 460 if you can afford it and your psu can handle it. I think that may serve you better with that game.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 10:35 AM

Your motherboard can run a Phenom II X4 945 but since there is no stock of that processor, this would do the trick. You would have to upgrade your Bios to the latest version first. Also i would upgrade to 8GB of ram because you will be running VMware while gaming and it would take up quite a lot of memory depending on what you running the VMware. Also what is your case model, power supply model and your memory configuration.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 02:53 AM

im not sure of all the psec of it. its a custom comp built awhile ago. i will get back to you when i know the specs. is there any tool besides cpu id that can help?

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 10:09 AM

I would recomend speccy which will get us everything but the PSU-for that you will need to pull of the side panel of the case, and check out the sticker on the side of the PSU itself.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 08:30 PM

Also try to find out the model of the case or you can upload a picture of the side panel open.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 09:54 PM

Operating System
MS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6400+ 56 C
Windsor 90nm Technology
RAM
6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 401MHz (5-5-5-15)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. M2N-SLI DELUXE (Socket AM2 ) 40 C
Graphics
Acer V233H (1920x1080@59Hz)
Sceptre X24WG (1920x1200@60Hz)
256MB GeForce 8500 GT (MSI) 62 C
Hard Drives
244GB Hitachi HDS722525VLAT80 ATA Device (PATA) 27 C
488GB Western Digital WDC WD50 00AAJS-00YFA SCSI Disk Device (ATA)
Optical Drives
PHILIPS SPD6004P ATA Device
ASUS DVD-E616A3T SCSI CdRom Device
DTSOFT Virtual CdRom Device
Audio
High Definition Audio Device

psu is 950 watt not sure of brand or model. ill get pics up of it very soon. first need to shut down comp so i can move it

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 11:47 PM

950 watt? holy cow, were you planning on using SLI? assuming its a good quality PSU you should be able to throw just about any type of video card. As for your memory, thats ddr2 800-with 6 gigs you should do more then enough, adding more memory wont give you a significant performance boost in game, even if you put faster memory in perhaps adding 2 more gig will help in running vmware, but I doubt there would be a huge increase. Id recomend upgrading to a quad core (either the one killer suggested or finding a used 945 somewhere. Im using a 945 right now, nice chip) though you will likely have to update the BIOS to get it to run, and upgrade your video card. I used to run VMware with my old 6000+ and 4 gigs of ram all the time and played COD4 a lot, boosting the CPU to a quad definetly made a noticeable difference.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 11:52 PM

nice also how do i post pics? the case is from smilodon. would i be able to run am3 socket on a am2 mobo?

Edited by gvfc2, 16 December 2011 - 12:06 AM.


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Posted 15 December 2011 - 11:56 PM

prolly the easiest way is to upload them to a site such as photobucket, and then just hyperlink them into the site (when you click add post, theres a toolbar that has B I U etc to the right theres a button that looks like a photo. click it, and insert the lin to the image on photobucket and it will insert the image.)

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 01:54 AM

Maybe one more thing to mention is that, it might be worth it to get a aftermarket cooler to keep the heat down during gaming.

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 02:08 AM

eh depends on the cooling in his case and the cooler he has now. If he got the cooler that came with that 6400+ when it first came out, it should do fine in a properly ventilated case as long as hes not doing any extreme overclocking. Ive installed a few of those 6400s, that was back when AMD included good fans. My 6000+ came with a decent fan, (even got a 500 mhz overclock with the stock heatsink on it) that did keep my 945 within safety zones for gaming (I did purchase an aftermarket cooler but thats beside the point) and the heatsink that came with the 6400 was an upgraded version of mine-came with copper piping and everything, in a well ventilated case, it should do great on a quad.

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Media Center: Motherboard: Gigabyte mp61p-S3, Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 6000+, Memory: 6 gigs Patriot DDR2 800, Video: Gigabyte GeForce GT730, Storage: 500 gig Hitachi, PSU: Seasonic M1211 620W full modular, OS: Windows 10.

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Posted 16 December 2011 - 06:45 AM

The temperature in the specs says 56C and maximum temp for the processor itself is 63C. If that 56C is just idle then i would be pretty concern about it and i would assume during gaming, it would exceed that 63C which is why i suggested a aftermarket cooler.

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System1: CPU- Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4.4GHz, CPU Cooler- Noctua NH-D14, RAM- G.Skill Ripjaws 16GB Kit(4Gx4) DDR3 2133MHz, SSD/HDD- Samsung 850 EVO 250GB/Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB/Seagate Barracuada 3TB, GPU- 2x EVGA GTX980 Superclocked @1360/MHz1900MHz, Motherboard- Asus X99 Deluxe, Case- Custom Mac G5, PSU- EVGA P2-1000W, Soundcard- Realtek High Definition Audio, OS- Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
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