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#1 peacemak3r

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 04:37 PM

I made a post a while back to start a new semi-gaming build computer but was advised to wait out a couple of months for new equipment to come out this Fall. So here I am again asking for some assistance. Before I explained that I wanted to go a different road this time and go AMD instead of my current Intel build.

Some of my requests:
1. I know most new cards are big and require that if I were to go Crossfire I'd need a Full ATX. So judging from that I'd like something with a bottom mount PSU and a efficient type of wire management. Also something not to flashy/showy but something simple, but no too simple.

2. My budget, well I don't have a set budget and would like to just go along with my paychecks and such. Basically not buying the parts/building it; in one shot. But if I do need to set a number, I guess somewhere from under $1000. If not possible then $1500.

3. As I said above, trying to go AMD, but would the GPU be better off with ATi cards or GeForce? I'm asking this because I know that running Battlefield 3, ATi's Catalyst program affects the program to launch itself. Just wondering.

4. I would be most likely salvaging some stuff but would like to see is it worth it. For example, probably salvaging a 500GB hard drive from other rig and probably one DVD drive, but would like to add a DVD-R driver or a simple CD-R drive as well. If I do go for another hard drive, I do need to buy another copy of Windows 7 correct? I think the one I bought was an OEM system builder one.

I guess that's all I can say for now, any help would be greatly appreciated and any questions regarding what I want would be answered ASAP.

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 08:42 PM

I tend to find that AMD video cards work best with AMD chipsets and CPUs. Im running a crossfire setup my self and have no issues at all with catalyst conflicting with my games. Crossfiring it is recomended that you go full atx, but there are a few mid-atxs out there that can handle a crossfire setup (with the exception of the 6970s) such as the coolermaster CM 690, which is what Im running two 4890s in, and which newegg unfortunatly, is currently out of stock. I tend to prefer Gigabyte or ASUS motherboards as well, combined with a good quality PSU. My number one advice is, never skimp on the motherboard or the PSU-if you have to buy cheaper or less ram or a slower PSU, but get the best you can afford with the motherboard and the PSU-they form the backbone of your computer. A PSU that goes out, has the potential of damaging other components, and motherboards can be a pain to replace if they go out, and if you go cheap they may limit your upgradeability in the future as well. PSUs that I trust and use include Coolermaster, Antec, Corsair, and OCZ. There are others but those are the ones I rely on the most-especially coolermaster.

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 08:49 PM

It's possible to get a very good build between $1000 and $1500 with quality parts.

Case: LIAN LI PC-A70F - This is a full ATX case made of aluminum and has a bottom mounted power supply. $149

Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth 990FX - I have this motherboard and it is very stable and easy to use. It allows for both Crossfire and SLI, plus it allows for SATA III and USB 3.0. $174

Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE 100311-3SR Radeon HD 6970 2GB - This is the fastest single GPU card AMD has. If you want something with a little less power, take a step down to the SAPPHIRE 100312-3L Radeon HD 6950 2GB which is much less expensive. BTW, ATi no longer exists as a brand, AMD bought it and phased it out with the Radeon 6000 series. The Radeon 7000 series is due out in the beginning of 2012. $349 (Before $30 mail-in rebate)

PSU: Sparkle Computer Corp GOLD CLASS SCC-750AF 750W - This is a very high-end power supply from a graphics card manufacturer. It is also modular. $159

CPU: AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 3.1GHz Socket AM3+ - This is the second most powerful AMD "FX" series CPU on the market. They are also having supply issues so prices are all over the place. Also, Newegg is, for now, forcing combos to get this CPU. If you want to buy now, just get the CPU and RAM combo, it seems like a good deal but be careful as the AM3+ socket on the Sabertooth motherboard sets close to the RAM slots making the cooler hit them if you use an aftermarket device. $209

RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - I use a similar model of RAM with my PC, the 1.5V one I believe. The heatsink just barely clears my aftermarket cooler. $54

SSD: OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB - With your budget, you can afford this. It will vastly improve access times and the speed of programs you install on it. Due to its small-ish size, you should only put the OS and other frequently used applications on it. You don't really need this as you have a hard drive already. $189 (Before $20 mail-in rebate)

ODD: Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7261S-0B LightScribe Support - A good and inexpensive drive. $20

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM - You need this. $99

Heatsink: XIGMATEK Aegir SD128264 Mega Killer Double HDT - I use a similar heatsink from Xigmatek. This is an HDT model which warrants a different thermal application method for best results. I do wish it was less expensive. $67

Grand Total: $1,477 (Before taxes, rebates, and shipping)

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 10:09 PM

Thanks for the inputs, I figured I was running behind on some stuff when you say ATi was bought out haha.

Anyways, before I jump to a $1500 budget, what stuff can I tone down to make it to the $1000 area first. Also for while using the motherboard you stated, is there a CPU that may be not top of the line but still over averagely good?

Thanks again!

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 11:40 PM

What you can tone down is the processor to a quad core bulldozer which would be fine for gaming since most games don't use 8 cores. Also you could get a quality lower wattage power supply which means you can't run Crossfire or SLI.

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Posted 27 November 2011 - 11:56 PM

That's a good build, however the X4 960T is 40% cheaper than an FX-8120 and faster for games, similarly the OP could save a bit by getting a 990FXF-UD3 or ASROCK Extreme 3 without losing any performance or notable features.
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Posted 28 November 2011 - 04:56 PM

Indeed, the 960T will offer similar performance in games since most don't go past two cores anyway. If you are rendering, the AMD FX-6100 Zambezi 3.3GHz would be good especially with Newegg's current promotion. The ASRock is a budget brand for Asus and the Gigabyte is sold out. I do like the current Asus boards with the AMD 900 series chipsets as they use UEFI, which makes overclocking and setting up the PC much easier. The Sabertooth is Asus' least expensive 990FX board. You can also not buy the aftermarket cooler as the loud and inefficient stock fans do work at keeping the CPU at a reasonable temperature.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 05:40 PM

Yeah ASRock are definitely a cheaper brand, they do make some imperfect boards but that particular board (the extreme 3) is very well made - the Gigabyte is in stock from Newegg.
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Posted 28 November 2011 - 06:26 PM

Oh hey it's back in stock, when I looked it was sold out... I hate cyber Monday.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 10:24 PM

Yeah makes sense now I think about it; not really familiar with US stock movement speed - where I am we have to wait for another ship to dock before we get more of anything lol :)
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Posted 28 November 2011 - 11:42 PM

I like Gigabyte boards just because of the quality of it, the way it is made makes it not feel flimsy or that cheap feeling.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 01:35 PM

Thanks for the replies, yeah, I don't really want to upgrade after this for a couple of years but I feel 8-core is way over board for me. I'm leaning towards the 6-core but I feel the Quad-core should be sufficient enough?

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 03:26 PM

For gaming purposes, then the quad core should do the trick.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 04:27 PM

For gaming purposes, then the quad core should do the trick.


Yeah basically some gaming involved and probably movie watching, streaming and such without having to upgrade in the future.

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 12:19 AM

The quad core processor can easily do those things :thumbup2:

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